[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

You can twist things however you want. 7.96 is quicker than 7.98.....it took you two years after that 7.96 to get a 7.98 STILL SLOWER ......at least put an * after that dumb azz false statement.

You say you like facts but seem to live fallacies.

I don’t run 1/4 mile track in 40 degree temps ........bad me! LOL
I’m done, the numbers speak for them selves. Obviously you don’t race and know nothing about numbers.

GTO George

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I don’t run 1/4 mile track in 40 degree temps ........bad me! LOL
I’m done, the numbers speak for them selves. Obviously you don’t race and know nothing about numbers.

GTO George

I race them, I build them, I tune them. I even degree the cams...and I also know 7.96 is quicker than 7.98 if you want to let the numbers "speak for them selves (themselves)".

I'd also bet you are the only member here that thinks 7.98 is quicker than 7.96.

EHTTFMF!

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

E-heads are impressive....most bang for the buck head ever made for a Pontiac..... I know guys that put a chit ton of effort into hi-ports and then a crap ton of money into Tigers just to try and keep up with E's.

Mike was going to High Ports for a reason. The most bang for you buck head is the High Ports. There have just been way more E head engines so there are many examples.
John got 462cfm out of High Ports his first crack at them. Standard valve location. Mikes were going to have it moved.
Justin could be doing the exact same thing with High Ports. Most likely a bit better. He is a Butler guy so there you go.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Mike was going to High Ports for a reason. The most bang for you buck head is the High Ports. There have just been way more E head engines so there are many examples.
John got 462cfm out of High Ports his first crack at them. Standard valve location. Mikes were going to have it moved.
Justin could be doing the exact same thing with High Ports. Most likely a bit better. He is a Butler guy so there you go.

How many sets of hi-ports have you personally run?

How many sets of E-heads have you personally run?

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Mike was going to High Ports for a reason. The most bang for you buck head is the High Ports. There have just been way more E head engines so there are many examples.
John got 462cfm out of High Ports his first crack at them. Standard valve location. Mikes were going to have it moved.
Justin could be doing the exact same thing with High Ports. Most likely a bit better. He is a Butler guy so there you go.

So where are these 462cfm highports and at what lift did that occur? What was the flow at .400?

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

How many sets of hi-ports have you personally run?

How many sets of E-heads have you personally run?

Look, E heads are great. But you might want to try and get you point past Marcella. When I sent Mike the check he wanted my High Ports but the chamber was too large for him.
I will beat people over the head with Mikes E head numbers. It is a great accomplishment. But there is simply more power potential in High Ports. Your love a fair with E heads is as bad as Georges hatred of them.
I asked Wilcox about this and he said High Ports simply have more room to do what you need. So both Marcella and Wilcox think more or less the same thing.
My High Ports go 359.5 cfm with "stock" port openings. Try that with a E head and you will not get even close. All they have is a little bowl work and blending. It was all done with the guides in place. Almost as good flow numbers as cookie cutter wide port E heads.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

So where are these 462cfm highports and at what lift did that occur? What was the flow at .400?

John posted the numbers himself. I have pictures of them and the intake. The heads have been sold to another guy for a upcoming build.

[Dragncar]

And Warp heads are cast now. Tommy's actual heads are cast. He does not have the billet versions, I asked Jeff when I bought some parts.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Mike was going to High Ports for a reason. The most bang for you buck head is the High Ports. There have just been way more E head engines so there are many examples.
John got 462cfm out of High Ports his first crack at them. Standard valve location. Mikes were going to have it moved.
Justin could be doing the exact same thing with High Ports. Most likely a bit better. He is a Butler guy so there you go.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Look, E heads are great. But you might want to try and get you point past Marcella. When I sent Mike the check he wanted my High Ports but the chamber was too large for him.
I will beat people over the head with Mikes E head numbers. It is a great accomplishment. But there is simply more power potential in High Ports. Your love a fair with E heads is as bad as Georges hatred of them.
I asked Wilcox about this and he said High Ports simply have more room to do what you need. So both Marcella and Wilcox think more or less the same thing.
My High Ports go 359.5 cfm with "stock" port openings. Try that with a E head and you will not get even close. All they have is a little bowl work and blending. It was all done with the guides in place. Almost as good flow numbers as cookie cutter wide port E heads.

Please answer my original two questions....dont need to listen to some guy yapping third and fourth hand opinions.

[slowbird]

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I don’t run 1/4 mile track in 40 degree temps ........bad me! LOL
I’m done, the numbers speak for them selves. Obviously I race and know nothing about numbers.

GTO George

OMG GTOGeorge talking numbers.

Yes the numbers speak for themselves to anyone that actually understands them.

Stan

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

OMG GTOGeorge talking numbers.

Yes the numbers speak for themselves to anyone that actually understands them.

Stan

Are you referring to GTO George......the 2nd quickest pontiac in Michigan?

[Gary Kubisch]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Mike ran his number in 40 something degree temps I did mine in 85 degree temp, he had 18-19 to 1 compression with my compression and boost numbers mine comes out to 16 to 1. My camshaft is around .720 lift.........I’ll bet his was closer to .900. His engine was 555 cubes mine is 525, my engine is made to stay together, his had a zipper on it. Same track same day I would easily gap him without my car breaking a sweat. FACT!
Listen Mikes car was fast for what it was.....please don’t compare my car to his!


GTO George

The hypocrisy here is laughable...But I agree, the two cars do not compare.
The amount of effort invested was night and day.

But your signature proves that Mike's ball busting really got to you. Talk about needing to "let it go"...

And for the record, Mike went 7.95 and the track was open that weekend to whoever wanted to "actually race".

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Gary Kubisch

The hypocrisy here is laughable...But I agree, the two cars do not compare.
The amount of effort invested was night and day.

But your signature proves that Mike's ball busting really got to you. Talk about needing to "let it go"...

And for the record, Mike went 7.95 and the track was open that weekend to whoever wanted to "actually race".

I have NEVER brought up mikes name or car.
He’s gone let the guy rest!


GTO George

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I have NEVER brought up mikes name or car.
He’s gone let the guy rest!


GTO George

Change your sig. And I'm guessing everyone will....

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

Change your sig. And I'm guessing everyone will....

Im not and it is!
Get over it!


GTO George

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Im not and it is!
Get over it!


GTO George

Your sig is wrong then... always will be until you go quicker than Mike did... are you a Democrat by chance George? Just because you say it, doesn't mean it's true.... your owning something that isn't yours.... convenient the guy that owns it isn't here .... what a tool
Typical union worker...

[Gary Kubisch]

His signature is just another instance of him trolling for attention.

[chiefbigb]

The train is being launched off the cliff any second

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by chiefbigb

The train is being launched off the cliff any second

Only if George the lier is at the helm...
I will ride his ass till he admits he I wrong...Mike Leech holds the record George claims..
No wonder he is a KRE fan..... they are just alike....full of chit