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Just buy a mini starter, that's what I put on the wife's '60 Ventura.
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1999 WS6 Formula, 1 of 175 1967 GTO Linden Green 4 spd, A/C, survivor 1967 Lemans convt 1967 Firebird 400 bench seat, deluxe interior, auto 1965 GTO 462, KRE unported D-port heads, Bullet 234/244 cam, th400, tight 10" converter, 3.73 gears, 87 octane, 3440 lbs. empty,1.59 60ft, 7.159@95.33 (1/8), a real daily driver, been totaled, rolled 3 times, hit a tree airborne. 1961 Catalina 2 door htp 1960 Ventura 4 door htp wife's car 1960 B'ville 2 door htp 1960 Catalina Wagon wife's car too |
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It's a lot cheaper than buying new, you're not just throwing out a perfectly rebuildable part, and if you're reasonably handy it's not hard to do at all. Same thing with generators and alternators. |
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BM 98,
Remember the '60 Pontiacs used metal tubing on the throttle linkage, and not flexible cabling. And the left motor mount had no "safety" design if the rubber portion failed. And it failed too often. The result? The failed mount will allow the left side of the engine to lift off the mount/frame with very little acceleration input. The metal throttle linkage is designed such that as the left side of the engine lifts, it causes the throttle inkage to pull the carb throttle open! And then it becomes self controlling - as the engine makes more power, it lifts more and opens the throttle further! Be sure and check the motor mounts carefully. Either replace them for any moderate driving, or install some sort of safety catch on the left mount, or engine, to prevent the engine from lifting off the mount if the rubber fails - especially if you plan to use the Pontiac torque regularly! This info is from direct experience! Jim Hand |
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I got off my butt today and dug through my attic of spare parts. Cleaned up the starter, installed a new solenoid and the car turns over perfectly.
Now if I could just get it to start. I tried adjusting the points, etc. No spark. It looks like everything ignition was hard wired to a 12V source. The wiring is a disaster in this car. I am going to just drop an extra HEI I have here in it and send it 12V and see what happens. Also going to order a wiring kit. |
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Thanks for the heads up, Jim. I'll check it out.
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That'll be really nice when you get it done. Cool ride. Love the white roof with the red.
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Does this car still have the factory 389/4 speed hydra matic transmission? If so leave it alone, its one of the best combos going for a big cruiser.. I had that combo in my 64 Bonneville and made the mistake of changing it to a 462/th400.. The car never was fun to drive after that.. Those closed chambered 389s make excellent street motors!
I have a good starter for that car if its a hydro transmission. No mini starters made for that set up besides the stock hydro starter is a rock solid unit.. |
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1999 WS6 Formula, 1 of 175 1967 GTO Linden Green 4 spd, A/C, survivor 1967 Lemans convt 1967 Firebird 400 bench seat, deluxe interior, auto 1965 GTO 462, KRE unported D-port heads, Bullet 234/244 cam, th400, tight 10" converter, 3.73 gears, 87 octane, 3440 lbs. empty,1.59 60ft, 7.159@95.33 (1/8), a real daily driver, been totaled, rolled 3 times, hit a tree airborne. 1961 Catalina 2 door htp 1960 Ventura 4 door htp wife's car 1960 B'ville 2 door htp 1960 Catalina Wagon wife's car too |
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Bought mine from Ames
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1999 WS6 Formula, 1 of 175 1967 GTO Linden Green 4 spd, A/C, survivor 1967 Lemans convt 1967 Firebird 400 bench seat, deluxe interior, auto 1965 GTO 462, KRE unported D-port heads, Bullet 234/244 cam, th400, tight 10" converter, 3.73 gears, 87 octane, 3440 lbs. empty,1.59 60ft, 7.159@95.33 (1/8), a real daily driver, been totaled, rolled 3 times, hit a tree airborne. 1961 Catalina 2 door htp 1960 Ventura 4 door htp wife's car 1960 B'ville 2 door htp 1960 Catalina Wagon wife's car too |
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So far the cleaned up starter seems to be working ok. I think the distributor is fried because someone hard wired it directly to 12V. Adjusted the points and all that good stuff and nothing. Oh well, wanted to convert it anyway. Dug around in the attic again and found a good HEI distributor so going to install that tonight and see if she lights off!
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1st gear is almost 4:1 (3.97) and 2nd gear (2.55) is steeper than 1st gear in a TH400. When those 4 speed dual coupling hydros are working and adjusted properly, they're offer butter smooth shifting. Those are my all time favorite automatic transmission. I had no problems getting a rebuilt starter for my '59 a few years back. I don't care for mini starters in anything old, they just don't right in a vintage auto. I really hate it when the Mopar crowed swaps a mini-starter in place of the original gear reduction units. Those gear reduction Chrysler starters have coolest, most unique sound when engaged. |
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Well, the Big Cat is alive! Installed an HEI and bootlegged 12V to it and hit it with some starting fluid. Sucker fired right up. Ran good too as long as it had starting fluid in it. Going to check out the fuel system later and get this thing running off the tank. So far so good!
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no bubble top in 60-2 dr hardtop
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I bought a 62 once for parts, so I hear ya!
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?? 1960 and 1961 did indeed have the 'bubble top' rear window. It was dropped for 1962 Pontiacs, although it was continued that year for Chevrolet.
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All GM hardtops in 1959 and 1960 use the same canopy / bubble top. The whole roof section is the bubble top. The bubble top is somewhat diminished for 1961 because of the re-designed front windshield/front "A" pillar, where as the 59-60 windshield is a true wraparound. For 62 only the Chevy Bel-Air retains the 1961 hardtop canopy while all the rest of the "B" body cars including Impala implement the new "BOW" Roof hardtop. "C" body cars use another version of the hardtop of which Pontiac and Chevrolet are not a part of.. Olds and Buick use "B" and "C" bodies.
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When my dad's 59 Cat, hardtop coupe was new we took a drive out to my sisters house with my grandfather about 2hrs away and by the time we got there my grandfather had a raging sunburn on his bald spot! Last edited by U47; 12-11-2019 at 06:57 PM. |
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