[Formulajones]

Originally Posted by 65madgoat

Would cryo treatment on this block (or any iron block) do any good once repaired?

I talk to Paul K about that when this subject comes up. Currently my son is having Paul cryo treat everything on his engine. Block, crank, etc.... Paul has been doing it for years. Honestly I'd defer that question to him but my initial thought is yes, it would do it some good.

[mgarblik]

Neat video and fun to watch. Looking forward to part 2. Only thing slightly odd to me was the big deal made about how rare and precious the block was. Yes it was an early Indian Adventures block. Yes it was a tall deck. But just guessing probably looking at 2K or a little more to put the #4 main saddle back in it. And it's the thrust main. You would be close to the cost of a brand new IA II block when all said and done. I know it wouldn't be a tall deck. But with a 4.400" bore and a long stroke, you can make a pretty big "Indian Engine" as the guy keeps calling it. There had been a Kauffman iron block, never used on FaceBook Marketplace for months in our area for $2500.00. It's a new block but quite rusty, sitting outside for years probably. That was an asking price. Enjoyed watching the process though.

[BILL BOWMAN1]

Very interesting. Is it good as new? IDK. For a street cruiser I wouldn’t hesitate to use it. But I wouldn’t want that to be on my mind crossing the lights at 150 MPH under big power.

[Formulajones]

Thanks to Paul C for letting me know I misquoted and sorry to Paul K if he started getting phone calls for cryo treating

Any cryo treating concerns "Paul C" is the man to talk too

[Steve C.]

carter cryogenics
Address: 3232 E Pennsylvania St, Tucson, AZ 85714
Phone: (520) 409-7236

I get my valve springs cryo treated by Paul

Benefit is reduction in stresses which reduces premature parts failure and extends part life.


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[J.C.you]

I remember the motor… Creech used to be on the forum. He had a 64 GTO race car. Sad he passed.

[gtospieg]

pretty cool

[Steve C.]

At one time Bill Creech had two tall deck blocks.

As of Jan 2015 his best pass in the 1/4 with the big engine (606 cu in) was 8.255 @ 2750 lbs on the motor, no nitrous.
The car had a mild steel round tube chassis and fiberglass bumpers, deck lid, doors, hood and front clip.


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[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Steve C.

At one time Bill Creech had two tall deck blocks.

As of Jan 2015 his best pass in the 1/4 with the big engine (606 cu in) was 8.255 @ 2750 lbs on the motor, no nitrous.
The car had a mild steel round tube chassis and fiberglass bumpers, deck lid, doors, hood and front clip.


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That was my understanding the last time I talked with Bill Creech (years ago).

Sorry to hear, if true, that Bill has recently passed away.

Tom V.

ps I have a 11" tall deck block but the crank will be a shorter stroke. (I am using that tall Deck Block for chassis clearance in my 64 Tube chassis car
with twin Turbonetics "Bonneville Salt Flat" Turbos). The Tall Deck Height gets the exhaust plumbing feeding the turbos positioned in a MUCH MORE
desirable height for the exhaust plumbing. 4.25" Moldex steel crankshaft with all of the latest oiling mods.

[hurryinhoosier62]

Originally Posted by Elarson

It's awesome that they are saving that block.

Yes...tall deck Indian Adventures block was probably late 90's/early 2000's as guessed.

Cost guess....figure $100-150 shop rate and they've been working on it a couple of days. Still cheaper than a new block.

I have a couple of strength concerns. The guy said he was using straight cast iron with no alloys...which sounds like not as good as the original block material. Also they let it cool very slowly and I get that that is probably necessary for controlling residual stresses and cracking from shrinkage. But my meager knowledge of the cast iron block material is that slow cooling tempers the CI to a lower strength.

So I think it's awesome that they are fixing the block but I doubt that it will be the full strength of the original block.

Disclaimer....I could be wrong on everything I just typed. Draw your own conclusions.

And I'm looking forward to part 2.

Eric

Eric, it is different that the process we used. We used nickel rods, preheated the block, kept heat on the block during the welding, then covered the block with thermal blankets to let the block retain heat through the cooling process.