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Old 10-21-2004, 09:04 AM
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The 77y high compression at 10.25 seems to be somewhat of a problem with the current fuels. When rebuilding, has anyone used pistons with a slightly lower top to take the edge off this ratio and still try to preserve the original power. I am assuming that the pistons listed for this engine are hi compression, unless the increase comes from a different head. The other area of concern is the timing chain. Two are listed and one is three times the price. What's going on there? Thanks: Fred A

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Old 10-21-2004, 09:04 AM
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The 77y high compression at 10.25 seems to be somewhat of a problem with the current fuels. When rebuilding, has anyone used pistons with a slightly lower top to take the edge off this ratio and still try to preserve the original power. I am assuming that the pistons listed for this engine are hi compression, unless the increase comes from a different head. The other area of concern is the timing chain. Two are listed and one is three times the price. What's going on there? Thanks: Fred A

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Old 10-21-2004, 10:06 AM
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Hey Fred, I just had my 71X engine rebuilt and the timing chain I had installed was a "rollerized" chain and was a lot more money. I am guessing maybe that is the other one listed. As far as the compression ratio and fuel conflict, I always use the highest octane fuel that I can find and never have had a problem. Stay away from the regular fuel if possible.

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Old 10-21-2004, 12:43 PM
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You can't lower the compression and still get the same power. The 10.25 compression ratio should be fine. Mine runs fine on regular, but you can always move up a grade if you need to. Just make sure that your timing is correct and that there is no carbon build up in the combustion chambers to raise the CR higher.

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Old 10-21-2004, 07:41 PM
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There are several differences between the high comp. & low comp. engines. The main thing is the pistons on the 10.25 are flat top & the ones in the 8.6 are dished. The cam profile is different & the 10.25 engine has dual valve springs.

The early 60's Pontiac racers would go to the dealership & get the Tempest timing chain to run in their 389's & 421's. The factory Tempest chain was a lot stronger than the stock chain used on the V-8's. I have been running a Cloyes double roller on my 61 daily driver with no problems. I do pull off the timing cover every year to reinspect the chain. The 4 cyl's have so much vibration, they streach the chain & need replacing more often than the V-8's.

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