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Old 04-18-2019, 01:37 PM
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Troy, be persistent. I got the runaround as well but waited a few weeks and tried again then got a list of authorized dealers to go to. If your seller is still around you should be able to get replacements.

Now for the bad part (for me): unfortunately I bought mine through a friend's shop and his distributor was no longer selling BFG's. When I went to the dealers BFG supplied they were reluctant to handle it since I hadn't bought from them. They claimed BFG "reimbursement" wouldn't cover their costs. One offered to do the swap if I would pay the difference but I was fed up by that time and just turned them around to blackwall.

Truth is, I left the trim rings off the Rally II's and now really like the look. Car is a Mayfair Maize vert and the plain wheels/blackwalls have a more aggressive vibe.

As for cleaning them, I had managed to get them "close" to white a few times but it didn't last. Like I told the BFG rep, the tires these replaced, which were on the car for 14 years and driven hard (too long I know) are still in my garage and the RWL's look better than this set ever will.

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Old 04-19-2019, 03:18 AM
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I was fed up by that time and just turned them around to blackwall.

Truth is, I left the trim rings off the Rally II's and now really like the look.
Same for me. I just didn't want the hassle of spending more time at the tire shop. Once I kicked the white letter habit, I never looked back. I prefer the blackwalls now.

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Old 04-20-2019, 08:24 AM
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Emailed BFG right away after reading they might be covering this.....

Here is their timely response...
I also Emailed them weeks ago and never got a response.

I since tried tire cleaners again like bleach white, Purple Power, Etc. and then I thought of my old red neck friend gasoline. I put a little on a rag and it wiped off that tacky film that nothing else would touch with ease and turned the side wall a like new black rubber look, I wiped it 2-3 times until nothing else was coming off onto the rags , Then I tried it on the white letters and it turned them almost pure white without much effort. I then cleaned everything with soap and water. I have not driven the car yet to know if it will come back but have a good feeling about it, I am sure I may take some flack for this action but tough times call for tough measures, Of course you wont want to do it over and over, but I think it may hopefully only need to be done a couple of times . And of course you need to be safe and careful about it. I will drive my car when the weather permits and see what happens.
Disclaimer: Do not try this at home, I am a trained red neck professional.


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Old 04-21-2019, 08:35 AM
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Yeah...... they got back to me also on my 2nd email...... Nope.... NADA...... Zilch....... They want NOTHING to do with the issue.....

Will try the gasoline "redneck" thing........ Cant hurt I guess....

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Old 04-21-2019, 11:47 AM
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Yeah...... they got back to me also on my 2nd email...... Nope.... NADA...... Zilch....... They want NOTHING to do with the issue.....

Will try the gasoline "redneck" thing........ Cant hurt I guess....
Let me know how it works out for you, If you are battling the same issue I think you will be pleasantly surprised . Still though I have not driven the car and warmed the tires up.

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Old 04-21-2019, 12:30 PM
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Just saw this today the White is actually running off the tires.
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Old 04-21-2019, 02:52 PM
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So can we say gas will fix this issue? I tried lacquer thinner which did seem to work,. but only with a lot of scrubbing

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Old 04-22-2019, 06:23 PM
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Hmmm...seems to be some different experiences here. I just got off the phone with my friend. He called BFG today, he said they issued a claim number immediately and apologized for the problem about 50 times throughout the course of the phone call. Hope it all runs just as smooth once he brings them in and the actual tire replacement happens.

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Old 05-04-2019, 04:29 PM
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a final follow up: My friend brought the tires down to the place, the guy acknowledged the brown letters and ordered in the replacements. They came in Friday and are all mounted with the new ones. It was a smooth as silk experience for him. White letters on the new tires glow in the dark they're so nice. A thanks again to Jays55 from him on the warranty info.

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Old 05-05-2019, 04:01 AM
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I've got this problem.

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Old 05-05-2019, 08:41 AM
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Leave the porcupines alone and they won't do that.


Gto4evr, can you get the phone number he used to call BFG for us. It would be easier using that number then going thru the BS with their initial list to select. Usually that doesn't work all that great.

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Had the same issue with the 72 lemans GT I sold (to a guy in Texas)..I was constantly scrubbing those tires to try to keep them nice...turned brownish/yellowish within a few days...and the letters were awful looking!.I did send 2 of the worst ones back after sending picts to the rep.. and they sent me new ones ..same problem again...Oh well I guess the guy in Texas should contact Tire rack..I bought them in late 2017-early 18?


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Old 05-07-2019, 08:03 AM
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Gto4evr, can you get the phone number he used to call BFG for us. It would be easier using that number then going thru the BS with their initial list to select. Usually that doesn't work all that great.
I checked with him yesterday when I was over there and he used the number Jays55 posted here. (1-877-788-8899)

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Old 05-12-2019, 12:47 AM
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Well I'm glad I found this....for years my TA's have been turning brown, kept changing tyre shine brands blaming them for it.

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Old 05-25-2019, 07:00 PM
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Im ready to pull the trigger on a set of 225/70/15's thru amazon but after reading this thread...yikes.

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Old 09-07-2019, 11:07 AM
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Okay gang, here's where things stand as of 9/7/19 on my warranty claim with BF Goodrich and my browning 2016-purchased Radial T/A's with less than 1000 miles on them:


- called the BFG hotline at 877-788-8899
- immediately got a case number assigned, which is simply my phone number
- took the SSJ to the Pep Boys up the street
- service guy confirmed the browning and called BFG
- they said they needed all DOT #'s from the tires, as well as the tread depths
- service guy gathered all of that information
- he called BFG back and they said they would apply a 50% warranty credit


So now I can either argue with them and gather more stress in my life, or I can choose an alternative. The Pep Boy service guy recommends their Futura white letter tires, but I know nothing about them....

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I’ve had the same problem with a set of repop Wide Oval’s I purchased from Rusty Small. Prior to the TA Nat’s I carefully cleaned them a letter at a time using Brake Kleen sprayed on a rag wrapped around a finger. I followed this with a Brillo pad and then Bleche White. All of the staining was removed and the letters remain white after 75 miles of driving.




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I wonder if anyone else here has had the same issue as me and a friend of mine where our go to tire for vintage white letter look with good handling has always been the T/A radials like most people. He and I recently put new ones on our cars and the white letters turn brown as soon as you drive a short distance, And have started to just clean off less and less almost like something from within the rubber is bleeding into the white, You can scrub them with bleach, bleach white tire cleaner, even laquer thinner and they just look like crap. even the black part of the tire looks bad like you drove it out of a dirty field. My question may serve as a warning to those considering them for a show car, and to see if anyone else has experienced this. They look so bad I am considering buying a whole set of tires like Mickey Thompson or something.
Last time BFG made a good street tire was prior to 1988.
I has a set with the old tread pattern with "Big Honkin" white letters that I ran on my 70' Camaro back around 86'.
But I wore the fronts out and got new fronts around 88'
It's the tire and tread pattern as well as smaller letter size you still see to this day..no sidewall cord to speak of and handle bad...hate them to this day!

Fast forward to today I now have used Mickey Thompson & Cooper Cobras which are still a step above the BFG's

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Old 09-09-2019, 07:37 AM
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I went with the Coopers recently. No doubt they ride better than the 8 year old BFG’s they replaced. Here’s hoping the letters stay white and that the aggressive tread isn’t to noisy over time. I considered going blackwall but just couldn’t do it. I will admit that the much lower price of the Coopers vs the BFG’s helped sway me.
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Im ready to pull the trigger on a set of 225/70/15's thru amazon but after reading this thread...yikes.
I bought a set of four 70 series tires a few months ago all with a manufacture date of this spring.

The car hasn't even seen the road yet and I've noticed brown staining starting on some of them already.

wtf!

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