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1st time assembling an IA II short block
Not sure why nothing attached to the last post. I'll try again.
Assembling a friends 535. I cleaned the block today and while going through the bolts and parts he brought to me I found these plugs. I have heard there are some screw in plugs that must be installed behind the bellhousing but I dont see where they go. The freeze plugs and screw in plugs are already installed there. The Bloch is supposed to be ready to assemble. Be picked it up from a machine shop because they had it for a very long time and were not working on it. ..any way..where do these go? |
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Those looks like the screw in freeze plugs that go in the sides of the block. 3 on each side of the block. Also that is the option screw it plugs but it normally comes with a brass plugs that looks like it belongs to a plumbing section.
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They are 1/2" pipe size with an o-ring to seal them. ..the freeze plugs are another thing that threw me off. They look to be press in plugs not screw in.
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#4
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KRE blocks have press in freeze plugs, IA blocks are screw in. Maybe its a KRE block?
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I'll look for more details.
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#6
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The only definitive marking on the outside of the block is this "stamped" Indian Head.
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#7
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Looks like a IA 1, not a 2. The 1 had press in freeze plugs, at least my tall deck did. I don't remember where those plugs went.
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#8
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I didnt know that. It may be an IA 1. My IA block says. ... IA XX. On the distributor pad area. This block doesnt.
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#9
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Never had an AI 1 block.
But I'd look where most sizes of that type go? Oil galley plugs, one for oil hole by the distributor. (the one behind a freeze plug on rear of block is usually forgotten?)
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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That's what I was thinking, the pass side internal plug that seals the oil galley, but then, why are there so many of them???
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down... |
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That's an Indian Adventures (IA1) block you are describing.
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#12
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I was thinking one in rear, 2 under cam timing gear (usually press in on stock block) one for the hole by distributor.
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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Those may not be for the block they look like the plugs for a custom aluminum oil pan to access the bolts or studs inside pan
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2008KRE Q16 Winner 2014 atco raceway doorslammer winner 86 grand am tube car 8.95 @152 455 eheads solid flat tappet cam Hoffman Racing building and racing Pontiacs for 35 years |
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look like hydraulic plugs to me. Could be what richie says, I have a pan like that and it was reg pipe thread/plugs.
Should be a good block, i had no problems with mine. What is bore size? Make sure you check the hole where the clutch rod would thread into. I have heard they can be thin there and leak. Mine did not, but thought i would mention it. Also, anything above 4.375 bore, you should have it sonic checked,as there is some casting shift around the 6/8 5/7 cylinders, that may require a sleave at bores above 4.38
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Thanks for the help. I guess they could be from something other than this block. The owner just brought me everything he got from the previous owner/machine shop.
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#16
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Agree with Richie. Those look exactly like the plugs that are used to access my Moroso custom oil pan bolts.
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#17
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God bless Dick Duclow.
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1967 Firechicken, 499", Edl heads, 262/266@0.050" duration and 0.627"/0.643 lift SR cam, 3.90 gear, 28" tire, 3550#. 10.01@134.3 mph with a 1.45 60'. Still WAY under the rollbar rule. |
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X2 for Mr. Duclow and Tom as well. The tradition has been carried on well by Frank and Bob, All Pontiac. As far as the plugs, I have built 3-4 IA I's and none of them had any plugs with O-rings. All the plugs were pipe thread.
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Finally got the pistons/rods in. Have to throw out a big thanks to Scotty G @ Scotty's Race Engines in Spring Hill, Fl.
Checked deck height, got the cam degree'd in today, rings filed to fit and assembled. After I took the pics I put the oil pump and windage tray on. Next up is just to fit the oil pan, and timing cover. |
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