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6TEE8GTO · 06-30-2015, 08:35 PM

On the OO car it says "one of 295 with Ram Air III, 4-speed and A/C"

Where can you get the breakdown on option combos? Might I have a car in the low double-digits with my options? I have all the options on the Orbit Orange Judge, plus several more. Man is that a beautiful car though, wow...

Red Goat · 06-30-2015, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by weranc55

Tim,

To bad you did not take your judge to the auction. I think your car would have done well. The color may hurt it a little but the resto is one of the best I've seen.

Chuck and Mike, my car has moved on to a new caretaker. The OO Judge did very well in Denver, but let's just say that a green on green car has set a new ceiling for a hardtop, RA3 Judge!

Should be good news for the hobby. I'll fill you in when I see you next... maybe Dayton TA Nats?

Cheers!

bigborehunter · 06-30-2015, 11:28 PM

I ask you Norm Warling, was your Ram Air III engine numbers matching? It did not say in the auction catalog whether it was or not.

GTO JOHN · 06-30-2015, 11:38 PM

I'm surprised at how low the bidding was on the non Judge RAIV car. $42,000 for this one and $44,000 for the Verdero Green car that went through Barrett-Jackson in January. The RAIII Judges are bringing almost 3x the money as the IV non-Judges!

Red Goat · 07-01-2015, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GTO JOHN

I'm surprised at how low the bidding was on the non Judge RAIV car. $42,000 for this one and $44,000 for the Verdero Green car that went through Barrett-Jackson in January. The RAIII Judges are bringing almost 3x the money as the IV non-Judges!

John - I don't know anything about the green car at Barrett Jackson, but the brown RA4 in Denver was non numbers and needed a lot. I thought $42k was pretty fair for what it was. If it was a Judge, it would have done better. As far as RA3 Judges, driver quality examples are in the same ballpark.

Ram4king · 07-01-2015, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GTO JOHN

I'm surprised at how low the bidding was on the non Judge RAIV car. $42,000 for this one and $44,000 for the Verdero Green car that went through Barrett-Jackson in January. The RAIII Judges are bringing almost 3x the money as the IV non-Judges!

Believe it or not John it all has to do with color. Orange is the new black!

Norman W · 07-01-2015, 08:56 AM

My car did not have it's original engine, it does have a correct 1970 ws engine from another car.

bigborehunter · 07-01-2015, 10:14 AM

Thank you for the reply, Norm.

Ram4king · 07-01-2015, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman W

My car did not have it's original engine, it does have a correct 1970 ws engine from another car.

Wow,I can't believe it did that money without its original engine.

Diego · 07-01-2015, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 6TEE8GTO

On the OO car it says "one of 295 with Ram Air III, 4-speed and A/C"

I am not sure where the seller got his number.

Pepper Judge · 07-01-2015, 09:33 PM

Congratulations on the sale Norman. Any other projects in the works?

Ram4king · 07-01-2015, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Diego

I am not sure where the seller got his number.

That number came from a document from Fred Simmonds. A board member here gave me a copy when I had my air Cond judge.

Norman W · 07-01-2015, 11:22 PM

Look at the GTO Heaven site for the production numbers for 1970. The only other project I have going is a 1962 Catalina for NHRA K/SA Drag car.

Baron Von Zeppelin · 07-01-2015, 11:33 PM

One of Fred Simmonds papers from 1989 had some 70 A/C (C60 option) factoids.

Total 70 Judge with AC = 791

Total with Ram3 Manual Trans - A/C & PwrStr = 425 (all GTO / Judge)
Total with Ram3 Manual Trans - A/C & Manual Steering = 60 (all GTO / Judge)

So 295 might be a percentage factored of 425 units
Or some rocket science mixed with algebra

Tellyshavilli · 07-01-2015, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by johnta1

X2!

I have data on one with the column shift.
'Einstein' posted before that he thought there might have been 3 column shift, but no documentation yet.

There are 3 69 Taraiv auto column shift cars built and all 3 in good hands

johnta1 · 07-02-2015, 09:27 AM

Thanks!

That's awesome info.
Are you one of the owners?

Diego · 07-02-2015, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram4king

That number came from a document from Fred Simmonds. A board member here gave me a copy when I had my air Cond judge.

AFAIK, I have all of Fred's paperwork, and that number is not there - the numbers posted above this post by the Baron is what I have.

It would be statistically incorrect to derive 295 from Fred's numbers, if that's what happened.

Baron Von Zeppelin · 07-03-2015, 01:38 AM

Think I found the 295 factoid.

Its on one of Fred's 1969 Data Documents

Ram3 + Manual Trans + A/C = 295
Ram3 + Automatic + A/C = 729

These are for 1969 models.

Diego · 07-03-2015, 09:16 PM

Well done, Sir!

I think the combo with the Judge package could be rarer than 295, FWIW.

roundportponchos · 07-06-2015, 12:46 AM

There was a 69, that was sold new in Pittsburgh area, it was, from I have heard, to have been a body swap.. it was at a Barret Jackson sale, and there was a big controversy, some yrs back.
It was found as a rough shell in late 80s, in Colorado, then made its way to San fran, where it was "restored"..

UOTE=The Boss;5425588]Anyone have the vin # of the TA that sold?[/QUOTE]

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