[ckaram68]

I also have the TKX in my 78 Firebird TA. Has the Qwik Stik. I purchased all parts from Jody's Transmissions. Jody's a super guy and can troubleshoot/talk you through it. Highly recommend him. Find him on FB!

[jhein]

Originally Posted by ckaram68

I also have the TKX in my 78 Firebird TA. Has the Qwik Stik. I purchased all parts from Jody's Transmissions. Jody's a super guy and can troubleshoot/talk you through it. Highly recommend him. Find him on FB!

I got all my TKX conversion stuff from Jody. He's great, including the Qwik Stik recommendation.. Jody didn't just sell me stuff. He worked with me and my installer/car guy to make sure it all went well. One of the best people I've ever dealt with. I wouldn't do anything different.

[chuckies76ta]

Personally, I’d be wary of the “driveline components” and eBay version… they look the same as the MDL unit, maybe a ripoff? Ya I would walk away from that too. There is so much counterfeit products nowadays, where do you start.

[TB1]

Originally Posted by chuckies76ta

Personally, I’d be wary of the “driveline components” and eBay version… they look the same as the MDL unit, maybe a ripoff? Ya I would walk away from that too. There is so much counterfeit products nowadays, where do you start.

Just a bit of an fill in here regarding Driveline components here's the link they are legit Red Roberts who is the original owner of McCleod clutches started the company. https://redrobertsinc.com/ I would venture to guess that MDL has them make there shifter with the logo on it. I've had two of his shifters in my 65 both bought from the same supplier in Canada direct from Driveline components

[chuckies76ta]

Originally Posted by TB1

Just a bit of an fill in here regarding Driveline components here's the link they are legit Red Roberts who is the original owner of McCleod clutches started the company. https://redrobertsinc.com/ I would venture to guess that MDL has them make there shifter with the logo on it. I've had two of his shifters in my 65 both bought from the same supplier in Canada direct from Driveline components

Yes we already know that. Thanks for the confirmation. I read about Red Roberts when I was researching my shifter from Modern Drive line. We were concerned about this company, Performance Parts Warehouse

[PontiacMatt72]

Good info - thanks. Seems odd though for two separate businesses to market and sell the same shifter as their own, with the same exact part name. Unless I missed something? But that’s the impression I get.

To be clear, I don’t intend to throw shade at either business. I like the shifter, based on online research alone.

[70GS455]

Be mindful that there are true offset shifters (offset shift tower or turret) compare to a simple dogleg offset adapter

[65madgoat]

The true offset shifter may not fit in many tunnels/conversions and why not ideal for most... great otherwise -- but the White Lightning shifter allows for different $50 offset adapters so you are not pigeon holed in to using it in one car. Change the adapter and it fits in another car.

[70GS455]

True offset shifters will allow the shift tower to be centered in the shift hole opening, which allows the rear of the trans to be higher, to maintain proper drivetrain angles where that is needed

[FrankieT/A]

Originally Posted by 70GS455

True offset shifters will allow the shift tower to be centered in the shift hole opening, which allows the rear of the trans to be higher, to maintain proper drivetrain angles where that is needed

Even though I'm not huge fan of the White Lightening shifter, I will say their approach to off setting the shifter is one of the best.

[chuckies76ta]

Originally Posted by 70GS455

Be mindful that there are true offset shifters (offset shift tower or turret) compare to a simple dogleg offset adapter

This looks like what Keisler had done to my TKO600 at the time. They machined the case and adapted there own setup outside the case. They called it their perfect fit . I talked with Silver Sport about the TKX and they wanted around $500 to modify the case. I didn't want the case cut up this time.That's where the MDL shifter worked for me. Thanks for posting.

[chuckies76ta]

Originally Posted by 70GS455

True offset shifters will allow the shift tower to be centered in the shift hole opening, which allows the rear of the trans to be higher, to maintain proper drivetrain angles where that is needed

This is True. I remember having to remove 1/2" of metal on the passenger side tunnel so the shifter tower ended up in the floor opening. I just rather do this than have the case cut.

[65madgoat]

TKX is a new case. No need to cut anything.

[70GS455]

Originally Posted by 65madgoat

TKX is a new case. No need to cut anything.

The discussion is about this style of offset shifter, which is not a simple bolt on but requires a modified tail piece ( I think)

[65madgoat]

Well chuckies brought up tko.

[gtospieg]

My Legend 5 speed has the shifter offset that 70GS455 showed. No interference with the tunnel or shifter doghouse.

[chuckies76ta]

Originally Posted by 65madgoat

Well chuckies brought up tko.

Ya what I was referring to is that the TKO600 was done with an offset shifter from Keslier at the time. The shifter was outside the tranny tunnel like in the picture. That is how they called it their perfect fit. The case on the new TKX is basically the same in respect to shifter location. Silver Sport wanted to also modify the case to make it, as been called the perfect fit. I said to hell with that for $500. I'm gonna do it my way this time. lol The modification that was done for the perfect fit works very nice and is very strong and functional. It really is the way to go if that's what you want. I personally did not want the new TKX case modified. It worked out ok for me with the MDL shifter.

[chuckies76ta]

Originally Posted by 70GS455

The discussion is about this style of offset shifter, which is not a simple bolt on but requires a modified tail piece ( I think)

Yes, I agree. They have to cut the tail housing and change the shifter rail.

[chuckies76ta]

Here is a few pics of the modification. this is the TKO600. Just take me with grain of salt. I have a hard time explaining myself through a keyboard. lol

[PontiacMatt72]

I’m familiar with the “true offset” option. I’m not interested in sending the transmission back to a shop to have this modification done. I’m also not interested in altering driveline angles to avoid floor/shifter interference.

If an offset shifter (base/stub?) will interfere with the floor “straight up” from where it mounts on the tranny (driveline centerline position), I’ m not opposed to cutting a new hole and just using the Tremec “factory location” instead of an offset to try to hit the pontiac 4-speed shifter hole. (If all that makes any sense).