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08-10-2020, 11:30 PM
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Crower Sportsman Pontiac 6.625 698$
Crower has their 1135$ Pontiac Sportsman rods on sale for 698$, bushed.
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08-11-2020, 05:37 AM
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A great price for a top shelf rod!
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08-12-2020, 11:29 AM
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Crower has no more left. Crower told me that the Pontiac Sportsman rods will no longer be available.
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08-12-2020, 01:54 PM
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Are these not the standard Crower forged rods for Pontiac?
My money would go to Molnar. Nothing but great things from many, also very high end big power builds (over 1000HP). |
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#5
08-12-2020, 02:08 PM
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Crower makes a top notch rod.... And other parts. They are feeling the results of keep raising prices and loosing more and more sales because of it. About two years ago these Sportsman rods were sold for $740 list price and they would clearance them out for $425 with free shipping. Today list price is over 1k and WD is $740 plus shipping....or you could buy them from the clearance rack for $698 with free shipping.... I wish them luck but don't agree with their business strategy.
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08-12-2020, 02:43 PM
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Years ago when it came to rods for my current 505 engine I was considering the Crower 6.8 Big Block Sportsman rod. However I choose to go with 6.8 Eagle "ESP" H-beam w/bolt upgrade. Not because the Eagle rod cost less but because of the weight. The Crower rod is heavy.
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08-12-2020, 04:01 PM
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08-12-2020, 04:20 PM
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08-12-2020, 04:37 PM
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2400$ for a set of them. Not sure what they charge for their billets today but I bet its near 2K $. I think I will have the 2 made just so I have a full set but at a later date. The Molnar rods are a lot lighter also. 749 grams vs 810 grams. The 2 bigger rods are 862 grams. Must be their old "Heavyweight" rods while I have 6 "Midweight" rods. I can buy the whole set of Molnar rods for around the 600$ it will cost to have the 2 Crowers made. And people run those Molnars on 1200 HP engines. Good enough for my stock block pump gas deal. |
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#10
08-13-2020, 02:02 AM
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Ordered a new set of Molnar 6.8 rods from Lewis Racing Engines. I will pull the crank back out and take everything down there. He charges a lot more than the local shop that balances engines. But if I went to him in the first place I would have been better off. The local shop that balanced the rotating assembly (only thing they did) just went off the Crower tag and did not actually weigh each rod.
Mike would have found it right away, he does very high end stuff. Good thing I found it myself. |
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#11
08-13-2020, 12:29 PM
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I would bet ya Lewis charges more because with his refined set up he can balance at 1" out from the center of the crank and not the far less race / high rpm Eeffective 3" out from the Crank center which is more the norm for stock / street high performance rebuilds and even so race builds!
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08-13-2020, 12:53 PM
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08-13-2020, 01:06 PM
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08-13-2020, 03:18 PM
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Very clean shop. Has a dyno . Dyno of broken dreams he says. So its honest. Lewis does some engines for Australian Pro Stock and you know how they RPM. Also Cup engines I believe. I think I have the right place. Wish I listened to my buddy and went there in the first place. See, I go my block back from Dan (RIP) and it was semi finished. Just needed bored and decked and there is one very reputable shop who does all the align boring around here. So I had it sent there to bore and deck and double check the align job with splayed caps. He did that and told me the align hone was dead on the nuts. Checked the Scat crank for clearances and it was .003 on mains and .003 on rods. .0025 if I run a coated bearing. But he does not balance. So I took my rotating assembly to the one local shop that does balance. They did re balance my old 455 crank when I went from SD455 rods to generic H beams and it runs great. But it is a iron head, cast crank 5500RPM deal vs the all forged High Port engine that will see 7K once in awhile. |
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08-13-2020, 03:31 PM
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It will be tight, don't want to rush things. I will give it a shot, I hate them all racing without me. I have not missed a season since the 90s. Redding runs late in the year simply because it is so hot over there in the summer. So I might take it over the mountains and give it a shot. Or I could just dyno it and take my time. Always wanted to dyno a engine. Another 800$, but at this point I am lighting money on fire so what the he!!, who knows. Probably better off taking my time. |
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#16
08-14-2020, 07:47 AM
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Crower rods are USA made and very strong rods. It will be a shame if they are no longer going to make them for Pontiac engines. If they were around $600-700 and available I'd use them before anything coming out of China, even if the offshore rods were going to be re-worked/finish machined here in the USA.......FWIW......Cliff
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08-14-2020, 08:22 AM
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Good value.
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08-14-2020, 09:49 AM
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I ordered a set of the Sportsmans rods for the sale price listed in the OP. The order was accepted and confirmed though as stated there is a backlog for the rods. Not sure where the idea that Pontiac rods will no longer be available came from. |
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08-14-2020, 10:58 AM
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They tell people that to get sales up and see if there is really a demand. I like these rods but that is about where they should be priced at anyways!
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08-14-2020, 12:08 PM
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