[Formulabruce]

Emission sticker , Im NOT a 1970 guru, but I have noticed that most if not all 1970 Birds I have seen have the emissions decal on the Pass side of the core support ( including my 1970 core support, which is from a 1970 Calif Esprit)
Just an observation, hope to hear more opinions on this

[Pepi]

My 73 has it on the driver's side.

[Norwood]

Great stuff Tom, keep snapping. I hope Bill Oxley looks in on this thread, as he was instrumental in the restoration of that 70 VN RA IV car that won best at the Nat's a few years ago. I do believe that car sold for a cool $250,000.

[formula400]

oh there is more Norwood, just need to download the camera soon. I have been trying to save all the original u-nuts since they are not reproduced, trying to stay away from ANY reproduction part on this car....

I really want this thread to be an open discussion, thats why i'm posting these pictures. Lets discuss the why's, what if's, or the "really"

If anyone sees somethin that is different then what " You " have seen, lets talk !! I love discussing this kind of stuff.

Thanks guys !!
Tom

[The Boss]

Tom, that's an amazing effort, thank you for including us!

I think I've seen that car once or twice.

[formula400]

Yes you have .

interesting fact i found out, short story - I did research on this car and searching who owned it and the history. This car was a one owner car until the 90's. After much research it turned out kinda funny, come to find out the guy who bought the car from the original owners has been a client of mine which whom i'm restoring a 70 T/A for...unbelievable !! So i call him and he was very excited to hear it has re-surfaced and that the car is with me.

He told me when he found the car in california from the original owners that the shaker had a "455" decal. the owners swore this is how they bought the car from the dealer. This is how the car was advertised for sale by the owners, as a 455 T/A for sale. After he did his homework when viewing the car it was a ram IV T/A !! As stated, for the most part this car appears to be untouched and appears the engine has never been out of the car. The only major thing i see is one re-paint. Off the top of my head i noticed the front intake bolts are not the studded ones, i'm assuming changed for some reason ?? Or as we all know pontiac did goofy stuff that we all thought should be another way.

Once i get more into the car we will see !!

[317th FMS]

I noticed it has the Deluxe interior but the seat belts are the black plastic type. My car has the deluxe interior with the metal buckles. Maybe someone can chime in on this? Chad

[FunctionalShaker]

I noticed the shaker seal has holes in the bottom. Weren't 70s supposed to be without. Also, it appears that the trunk has no round holes. 70's should have them punched with plugs in them. ...? My deluxe interior has the blue plastic buckles.

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by FunctionalShaker

Also, it appears that the trunk has no round holes. 70's should have them punched with plugs in them. ...?

Late 70's did not.

[68bird400HO]

Originally Posted by 317th FMS

I noticed it has the Deluxe interior but the seat belts are the black plastic type. My car has the deluxe interior with the metal buckles. Maybe someone can chime in on this? Chad

Not 100% sure for 1970 but I believe the deluxe interior option and the deluxe seat belt option are two separate options.

[FunctionalShaker]

Going by my paperwork: Custom belts came with custom trim, but you could order them with standard trim. Plastic buckles are custom, correct? My custom interior car has them and my standard interior shows them ordered on the sheet.

Boss... do you know what the transition date is?

[formula400]

Originally Posted by 317th FMS

I noticed it has the Deluxe interior but the seat belts are the black plastic type. My car has the deluxe interior with the metal buckles. Maybe someone can chime in on this? Chad

They are actually blue, just look black in the photos

I have seen seat belts being different from norwood to van nuys plants

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here is one for you guys, maybe some are aware and some are not....

First picture, april built 70 - van nuys - rear foot floor pan




Second. july van nuys




Third , july norwood

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by FunctionalShaker

Boss... do you know what the transition date is?

I'm not sure if we ever nailed it down - do a search, it's been discussed here before and there were multiple examples without the knockout.

[FunctionalShaker]

Interesting that you got one of each type of gusset bracket -- long slot, short slot -- off of the car. Looks like substitute bolts were used -- should be '314s.
My April 70 V.N. built has the large holes in the floor.

[formula400]

Originally Posted by FunctionalShaker

Interesting that you got one of each type of gusset bracket -- long slot, short slot -- off of the car. Looks like substitute bolts were used -- should be '314s.
My April 70 V.N. built has the large holes in the floor.

I did not even pay attention to the "slot" difference, good eye and thanks !!

If the bolts were not all matching i would lean towards your side, but there is no evidence that they are not original, so i will probably just run with them.

[FunctionalShaker]

Who knows if they were factory subs -- although those bolts don't look familiar to any other application -- or a later change. I also noticed in your pics that the bolts holding the hood tension spring are other than called for as well.

I'm wondering if changes weren't made somewhere along the way. I understood that the short slotted gusset brackets were a 70 only deal. Something else to look into. Has anyone else noticed this?