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Old 02-25-2024, 08:03 PM
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Great list on those color codes Jeff
I never took any time to try to relate the colors back in the 80's-90's when I was handling a fair amount of various 67 carbs.

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Have never seen a 66 or 67 Qjet with stamped ID.
Chevy and Olds used them in 66
Always the Disc.

If I were buying one , it would have to be a Disc ID
Thanks 60sstuff

Looks like the repop discs might all be done in red now regardless of date or code.
Did see a gold one offered , but it might have been an original.
Round holes in the disc is all I can remember seeing before.
My 67 Sprint built 12C has a stamped carb and its the first design 67 carb

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Old 02-25-2024, 10:33 PM
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The stamped versions must be few and far between.
Or SR dated carbs.

Only 2 on eBay are stamped
One is a late 1971 dated SR 7037262

One is an obvious restamp for a 67 RamAir Firebird
Numbered 7037276 without a date code or plant pick code.
And its a Carter

There is a Manual Sprint carb 7027269 with a Disc dated B7

Also found a couple with M 6 date codes.
Meaning they most likely did skip " I " on the carb dates.

I've been checking all 4 GM divisions

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Old 02-26-2024, 05:41 AM
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Great '67! Good luck with getting all the needed bits.


Baron, Yes the 1966 OHC 6 SPRINT is the 1st Pontiac to utilize the Q-Jet.

FWIW here is a '67 Carb Tag list I have on file;

1967 CARB TAG CHART;
FEDERAL;
7027260 – YELLOW
7027261 – LIGHT GREEN
7027262 – BLUE
7027263 – GOLD
7027268 – RED
7027269 – BLACK
7027272 – DARK BLUE
7027273 – BLACK
CALIFORNIA;
7037260 – RED
7037261 – BLACK
7037262 – MAROON
7037263 – ORANGE
7037268 – GREEN
7037269 – COPPER
7037271 – YELLOW
7037272 – DARK BLUE
7037273 – BLACK
Nice list, thanks!
Add to that, CALIFORNIA tags got a square center hole while FEDERAL tags got a round hole.

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Old 02-26-2024, 03:47 PM
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Parts Place would do better to make those discs in natural finish , and probably round holes would cover more of the market correctly.

The square hole could be drilled round I suppose.

Great info from you guys about the discs !

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The original round disc on the '67 I sold last fall looked more red to me, but the chart called it orange. And by the looks of it when removed, I doubt that it ever had a can a carb cleaner touch it. Lol
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heres pics of a couple discs
hole on one isnt round or square
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Another item that seems "odd" to me is the use of a fan shroud on a non A/C car. The fan shroud was used on all A/C cars and also part of the HD cooling option (though some documented 67 RA cars appear without the shroud). This car does not have A/C or the heavy duty cooling option. I assume it was possibly added to help with cooling.

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I didn't even ever notice the shroud on the car.
Believe there was a dealer service part made for the shorter Non-AC radiator.

And I think they reproduced it - or at least at some point - in the restoration parts catalogs.

Also seems like its been said you can put an old factory Voltage Regulator outer cover onto a newer replacement part.
I probably have an old regulator on a parts car if that is true.

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Another item that seems "odd" to me is the use of a fan shroud on a non A/C car. The fan shroud was used on all A/C cars and also part of the HD cooling option (though some documented 67 RA cars appear without the shroud). This car does not have A/C or the heavy duty cooling option. I assume it was possibly added to help with cooling.
This over the counter fan shroud was widely used back in the day as the GTO’s tend to run hot. They are a durable thick textured plastic with the part number.

The Original owner of my ‘66 GTO added this shroud shortly after he bought the car.
There is one on eBay now for $$$.

Below is the one on my ‘66 along with the MPC information.
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Interesting. Learned something new. To be clear that shroud was not installed on the assembly line but was a dealer over the counter part?

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From the best I have gathered , that is correct Mcronk.
But I wasn't even 4 years old yet when 67 production ended.
So its been a perpetual learning experience

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My first recollection of a GTO was when I was about 13. A neighbor down the street was a salesman at the local Pontiac dealership and he drove one home. Best I recall it was a 67 GTO Signet Gold with a Black vinyl top. This would have been about 1970. As a kid I used to try and identify make and model of cars on the road back then.

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Thank you .I'll look for the pm.Iwill let you know how I make out,Again thnks
Did you have any luck on a carburetor yet ?

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This is the original Q-Jet that's on my '67 GTO, automatic A/C car, with the blue ID disc. The car was built in the 4th week of June 1967 at the Pontiac plant.

Yes, it's quite filthy. It was last rebuilt over 30 years ago, it's due. It still runs pretty well, but I'm sure it would be better with a rebuild.
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Nice list, thanks!
Add to that, CALIFORNIA tags got a square center hole while FEDERAL tags got a round hole.
How do you decode the carb number and color? It is by application? For instance base engine/3-speed, base engine/4-speed, etc through Ram Air or is it by engineering change level, or is it by production date? I'd like to check my Q-Jet to see if is correct. Thanks.

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How do you decode the carb number and color?
For 67 carbs they follow the block code application.

Firebirds had their own block/carb codes to themselves.
Sprint 6 carbs are in that list too (Abody & Fbody codes)

49 State GTO and 428 cars used
7027262 Auto - all
7027263 Manual - all

The colored tags were probably done to aid assembly line workers from mixing them all up.
Each application got its own color.

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Thanks for that info. Its very helpful

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Another item that seems "odd" to me is the use of a fan shroud on a non A/C car. The fan shroud was used on all A/C cars and also part of the HD cooling option (though some documented 67 RA cars appear without the shroud). This car does not have A/C or the heavy duty cooling option. I assume it was possibly added to help with cooling.
My '67 H.O. that I factory ordered came without a shroud. Car was only a couple months old when I got stuck in summertime gridlock traffic and the temp gauge climbed over 215° before traffic let up and temp came down. Part of the problem was my previous cars had idiot lights and gauges were new to me. Anyway that Monday I went down at the dealership and purchased a fan shroud for the 15-1/2" radiator. They had it in stock and it set me back a little over $11 before tax. Mine looks just like the photos 60sstuff posted.

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