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Old 04-13-2016, 04:52 PM
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TURBO LOUIE!!!

Freekin Awsome!
He's been a bad boy. I think he rolled in something .. haha

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The cool thing about this setup is I wouldn't hesitate driving it all the way to you. Just the e85 would b hard to get along the way...

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Old 04-13-2016, 04:53 PM
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Usually the file is too big if it won't take it.
Either have to resize it or host it.

Send to me if you can't get it done.
I can put it up.

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He's been a bad boy. I think he rolled in something .. haha

Thanks again...

The cool thing about this setup is I wouldn't hesitate driving it all the way to you. Just the e85 would b hard to get along the way...
Well Charlie, I know Len wanted to do a turbo build so you would be the push over the edge.

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Well Charlie, I know Len wanted to do a turbo build so you would be the push over the edge.
Lol. Did you show him the video?

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Dyno graph pics:

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These are the same just gif files
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Charlie, I'd say the problem was your pics were bmp files which are huge (for PY) I converted them to jpg (which are probably not real clear) and the gif is probably better for black & white pics.

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What is the general rule of thumb with the percentage drop in hp with a turbo 400 and a 9" rear? Im trying to figure a ball park hp number its making at the crank. 22% says 770 hp..
What chassis dyno was yours on?

For fun internet comparison, my 1994 Eagle Talon AWD with a 149cid engine, 5 speed, and 70mm Garrett GT4294 turbo at 45 psi made 613.8 hp to all four wheels. This was on a Dynojet awd dyno.

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Lol. Did you show him the video?
Charlie,
What dyno place you go to?

Another guy here I built a carb for (imposter) that lives on the Island too is having a hard time finding one that can take him in & about to travel to the one I use here.

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What chassis dyno was yours on?

For fun internet comparison, my 1994 Eagle Talon AWD with a 149cid engine, 5 speed, and 70mm Garrett GT4294 turbo at 45 psi made 613.8 hp to all four wheels. This was on a Dynojet awd dyno.

I love your car!
Good numbers, good VE is tough to beat, but consider how much wheel power would drop if you had an automatic trans to push through.

Charlie's numbers are very respectable for 6500 rpm he limits to and t400 trans to put power through.
There is more in it once he finds out what's choking it.

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I think you need a bigger turbine Housing Charlie.

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Hi Charlie66, can you give us a short run down on your built! Crank, rods, pistons,cam ect. Thanks

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Dyno graph
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Thank you ! I appreciate you posting them for me....

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These are the same just gif files
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Charlie, I'd say the problem was your pics were bmp files which are huge (for PY) I converted them to jpg (which are probably not real clear) and the gif is probably better for black & white pics.

I wish I knew how to change them.... Thanks again!

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Old 04-14-2016, 11:58 PM
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Charlie,
What dyno place you go to?

Another guy here I built a carb for (imposter) that lives on the Island too is having a hard time finding one that can take him in & about to travel to the one I use here.
Mustang Magic 160 brook avenue, deer park, ny 11729 ask for Joe and mention me, the tall freak with the 4 cylinder. haha

If you want give your friend my number and have him call me. ill go down there with him...

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Good numbers, good VE is tough to beat, but consider how much wheel power would drop if you had an automatic trans to push through.

Charlie's numbers are very respectable for 6500 rpm he limits to and t400 trans to put power through.
There is more in it once he finds out what's choking it.
I checked the pressure at the turbo and its the exact same as in the plenum.. So its not that.

Changed the A/R from a .67 to a .81 and the numbers went from @ 30 psi BC 38 to now 32. 35 psi now went from 44 to 40 and 40 psi went from 58 to 50. So I think it was worth changing to... What do you think?

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I think you need a bigger turbine Housing Charlie.

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Did you come to that conclusion after going over the maps?

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Hi Charlie66, can you give us a short run down on your built! Crank, rods, pistons,cam ect. Thanks
Stock Crank with rod journal's turned down to BBC size.

Eagle H beam's w/990 full floating pins

Ross , forged with ring pack dropped down 0.375 .

8.75: 1 compression

Cam : .580/251 114 sep installed @ 110 with brace

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XFI 2.0 Fast fuel injection w/ 75mm throttle body

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What chassis dyno was yours on?

For fun internet comparison, my 1994 Eagle Talon AWD with a 149cid engine, 5 speed, and 70mm Garrett GT4294 turbo at 45 psi made 613.8 hp to all four wheels. This was on a Dynojet awd dyno.

I love your car!
Thank you

This was a dynojet too.

I bet your car fly's. FWD must just hook and go. Sounds cool!

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Took my friend for a ride yesterday . The car started having a high idle. Found this. High boost is a lot of fun ant it . Lol. Keeps me on my toes haha

I have to figure out who makes the best gaskets for boost...
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