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#101
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I like factory spoilers best. I can appreciate that when a Formula owner checked that 455HO box, and that he could stop himself from checking the M-22, Posi, Handling, Formula wheel, spoiler...
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In addition to that. Sorry, to interject in thread.
I really like the new addition to the rear of that Formula!
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#103
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Regarding the Formula model, seeing that the twin scooped hood is rather aggressive, the rear should have something there to balance out the front.
While I like to keep these cars original, this car was not optimally optioned out when new. The column shifter is another thing that will change, whether I choose to convert to manual trans or just add the console and keep the TH400. My girlfriend wants to drive this car, and is pressuring me to keep the auto.
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1976 LeMans B09 Freeway Enforcer, 455/M40 Smokey 1977 Trans Am, 400/M21 Black/Gold Bandit. 44K actual miles 2017 Sierra SLT 1500 Z71 4X4 2019 Canyon SLT Crew 4X4 |
#104
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I am sorry to hear this.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
#105
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There is absolutely nothing more that says "grandma" on a car like this than a column shifter. It should have never been available on this era F body. I also demand a tilt column, so I must change it.
Also, this car had the ugly baby moon caps once upon a time. The Rallys are staying on it. While this car is an unusual piece, I found it rather unexciting and bland. Rare does not always equate to desirable.
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1976 LeMans B09 Freeway Enforcer, 455/M40 Smokey 1977 Trans Am, 400/M21 Black/Gold Bandit. 44K actual miles 2017 Sierra SLT 1500 Z71 4X4 2019 Canyon SLT Crew 4X4 |
#106
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you say "bland", I say "sleeper"
column shift, no spoiler, base wheels - just need to swap on a set of "Formula 350" badges, and the disguise would be complete!! lol I agree that the column shift seems out of place; as I recall, the console was a suggested item for cars with an optional automatic, and the console, or lack thereof which kept the shifter on the column became standard fare for 1975 on the Formula and Trans Am models.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
#107
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I had a '71 TA with a column shift, buckets and no console.
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1967 Firechicken, 499", Edl heads, 262/266@0.050" duration and 0.627"/0.643 lift SR cam, 3.90 gear, 28" tire, 3550#. 10.01@134.3 mph with a 1.45 60'. Still WAY under the rollbar rule. |
#108
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I disagree that column shift says "grandma". It actually says "Great-Grandma".
I can say from personal experience (72 F400 column shift) that many hot rod people who don't "know" will think you have a modded base bird or Esprit, and think yours a fake, with the column slopper, I mean shifter. It is one of the "forgivable" mods that will never hurt value. The subtraction for non original is still less than the added value of a floor shift. Win, win. Want to know how valuable your column shift is? Try to sell it after you pull it. hahaha....
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#109
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ive got a 69 ta with a column shift. neighbor bought it new. conversation piece for sure.
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#110
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/\ cool!!
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
#111
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Of course that is one that should never be changed! Historical rare cars of that caliber, or RAIV, or SD should of course be left alone.
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72 Bird |
#112
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ive owned the car for 30 something years. wont change anything on it. its an a/c car also.
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#113
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Since both horns are hopelessly dead, what are the best OEM appearing and fitting ones available?
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1976 LeMans B09 Freeway Enforcer, 455/M40 Smokey 1977 Trans Am, 400/M21 Black/Gold Bandit. 44K actual miles 2017 Sierra SLT 1500 Z71 4X4 2019 Canyon SLT Crew 4X4 |
#114
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I'd suggest finding good used ones.
they will look correct and attach properly.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
#115
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I used a guy who repaired corvette horns , about 15 years ago. I dont have any of his info, but that might be a place to start ( corvette horn restorations) since originals, that work, are tough to find.
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#116
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I am pretty sure a member here posted a couple pictures of his horn "collection" - I'd wager a member might have some...
there's a set here: https://www.frankspontiacparts.com/u...tiacparts2.htm (I just don't off hand know what might make 1973 Firebird hornss unique from any others.) There's three more here: https://www.frankspontiacparts.com/u...iacpartsp3.htm and three more here: https://www.frankspontiacparts.com/u...dprixparts.htm
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
#118
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I rebuilt & restored mine on the GTO. Turned out great & they sound great too.
Both were dead as a doornail. I think I have some info & picts in a thread somewhere here.....
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68 GTO 4-spd Convertible 78 S/E Trans am L78, WS6 Auto 78 S/E Trans am W72, WS6 Auto 79 10th aniv W72 Trans am 80 Indy pace car Trans am 89 Trans am GTA |
#119
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So long, farewell. |
#120
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here's the thread I mentioned if you want to take a crack at repairing them. Really not too bad imo.
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ighlight=horns
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68 GTO 4-spd Convertible 78 S/E Trans am L78, WS6 Auto 78 S/E Trans am W72, WS6 Auto 79 10th aniv W72 Trans am 80 Indy pace car Trans am 89 Trans am GTA |
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