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Old 05-13-2020, 02:36 PM
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Here is a 20,000 mile survivor 1969 fullsize built in Pontiac. 100% untouched. The plant and engine choice should make no difference since all engines were cast in the same foundry plant and painted there before being shipped out to various assembly plants.

As mentioned the color is very blue with no green tinge. Apart from the low miles it should be noted this car has been stored in climate controlled garage it's entire life and all the miles were in ideal weather and local trips only which is why everything including rad, hoses, carb, plugs, points etc are factory installed and in good running order.

I always felt that the original color was greener than those paints currently on the market but this car has me leaning to the idea that high heat for extended time combined with oil and gas residue over time green the paint.

That being said I still think the paint being sold now is too silverish, needing more blue but not necessarily the green tinge I see on most original engines.

You are spot on. My original 49K original engine from my 69 Firebird looks exactly like that, it's on a pallet in my garage. Been stored for years, CA car, kept indoors.

I'm going to be doing a complete rebuild/restoration on it and I've been frustrated by the choices of paint out there and have no clue what to buy that will be close

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Old 05-20-2020, 04:57 PM
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I’m not certain what engine color was used on a 1969, but the Factory engine color found on Unrestored Survivor 66-67 GTOs definitely had this Greenish mix.

Back in the late 70’s me and Bruce Bethel would still be able to find the rattle cans in this Cool color in just a few old parts stores.
When we did, we would buy every can they had because other stores were starting to stock the Blueish shade only.

The empty can below (Bright Beauty) by Dupli-Color Products is all I have left of those days, and this cap was never subjected to heat.

Shown below is a 66 throttle cable bracket along with a couple other brackets Factory sprayed in this Greenish color.

Last photos shows Grants 35,000 mile 67 with the smog bracket removed showing this color.

I understand age and lightning tend to alter any engine color, but I’ve seen plenty of Original engines still showing this unique color.

IMHO, the Blueish looks cheap, generic whereas the OEM Greenish looks strong and bold.

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I think that expansion/frost plug behind the pump has been discolored by heat.

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I think that expansion/frost plug behind the pump has been discolored by heat.

Absolutely.

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I think that expansion/frost plug behind the pump has been discolored by heat.
It should be. It’s 53 years old.

The cylinder head plug is made of a different material and much thinner than the head and block - different hue.

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That greenish turquoise engine color may come as a result of oil,heat,age and various chemicals in engine degreaser. I used oven cleaner to clean my engine and it turned the 69 pontiac blue engine paint color into that greenish turquoise. Tint.

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The green color is what this Pontiac Blue Metallic paint turns into when
heat cycles and age take effect. All you have to do is look at factory literature
to see that when new the engines were the same blue as the Duplicolor. The
engine in my car that was painted in 2000 and which started out blue is now a lovely shade of green.

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..........Shown below is a 66 throttle cable bracket along with a couple other brackets Factory sprayed in this Greenish color.
Notice on the PCV hose bracket how the farther away from the hold down bolt the color transitions from greenish to blue. This would be a direct correlation to the amount of heat it was subjected to. The color looks correct closest to the hose.

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