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Old 12-10-2012, 02:25 PM
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I have looked in the assembly book and it clearly shows 3 different styles of bumper jacks. I am not 100% positive on the correct ones, i am posting 2 different styles that are from 70 model yr.

The light blue one is from a Norwood t/a with ralley spare

The dark blue is from a van nuys. I'm not sure if its correct for a space saver or full size. I ask because i have 2 70 Van Nuys built cars here, 1 with a full size spare and one with a space saver, and they both had the dark blue style in the trunk. Whats correct ??

And does anyone have a picture of the 3rd style ? If it does exsist ??
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:37 PM
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I can tell you with a high level of certainty that the lighter blue one is what my '73 Rally T/A uses.

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Old 12-10-2012, 03:56 PM
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i guess the "Y" style is the other type of jack.

but, I see no discussion of the "type" of spare tires that came with these jacks ?

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Old 12-10-2012, 04:28 PM
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Default Spares....

Trans ams had 15 x 7" Rally's with F60 x 15 RWL Goodyears.....
MOST Formula 400's came with 14 x 7 steelies OR Rally II's with F70 x 14 RWL Goodyears.......
Esprit's & base birds came with E78 x 14 dual stripe whitewalls...

UNLESS a stowaway spare was ordered...

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Old 12-10-2012, 04:52 PM
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ok, thanks. But, which jack is correct for the spare tires ??

Here are attatched pics from the assembly books. Look how the base's have the part number of the what i assume to be the jack next to them. In the 70 book they match up with the jack numbers, but after 70 they don't match what the jack numbers are.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:10 AM
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Default jacks

I don't think they had a diff jack for spacesaver... The LS1 van nuys here, has it's orig spacesaver. The jack I got for it in cali, is the dark blue one you pictured.
If they used 2 diff jacks for van nuys cars, please let me know...
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I have looked in the assembly book and it clearly shows 3 different styles of bumper jacks. I am not 100% positive on the correct ones, i am posting 2 different styles that are from 70 model yr.

The light blue one is from a Norwood t/a with ralley spare

The dark blue is from a van nuys. I'm not sure if its correct for a space saver or full size. I ask because i have 2 70 Van Nuys built cars here, 1 with a full size spare and one with a space saver, and they both had the dark blue style in the trunk. Whats correct ??

And does anyone have a picture of the 3rd style ? If it does exsist ??

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Old 12-11-2012, 08:24 AM
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now we are getting somewhere.....thanks roundportponchos.

Anyone else ? Go look in your trunks already...lol

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Old 12-12-2012, 12:57 AM
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my 71, is a van nuys car also. It does not have "Y" styled jack...

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my 71, is a van nuys car also. It does not have "Y" styled jack...
It has the dark blue style one ? what spare is in it

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It has a full size spare, & dark blue jack, looks close to our 70.

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Old 12-13-2012, 08:38 AM
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ok, thanks.

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How long should the jack posts be for each style of 70 jack? I assume Camaros used the same but for an extra hook. The Camaro guys say the jacks were 32 1/2" until around June of 70, then went to 34 1/4

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3rd week july 70 Norwood.......mine has a "Y" in the trunk

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Does anyone here have a spare 71 van nuys jack set up... thnx

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71's used the silver painted "Y" style shaft,1970 VN's used the silver cadmium plated square shaft and the 1970 Norwood cars used the gold cadmium plated almost a teardrop shape shaft. ALL 3 used different shades of blue and the VN lug wrenches have a "W" on them and have a noticeable different bend on the handle. The 71 lug wrenches I have seen are painted grey while 70 VN or N seem to be painted blue.

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71's used the silver painted "Y" style shaft,1970 VN's used the silver cadmium plated square shaft and the 1970 Norwood cars used the gold cadmium plated almost a teardrop shape shaft. ALL 3 used different shades of blue and the VN lug wrenches have a "W" on them and have a noticeable different bend on the handle. The 71 lug wrenches I have seen are painted grey while 70 VN or N seem to be painted blue.
Bill, you are wrong on the 71 VN jacks. They are the same as the 70 VN jacks. As you stated in a different thread, you are basing your information on the MPC which does not even support YOUR premise. You do not have any real data supporting your premise and you ignore any data that goes against it. The real data I have (granted not a lot) shows the VN jack used in 71 in both Firebirds and A-bodies. You rightfully complain about others spreading misinformation, yet, that is what you are doing now.

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Bill, you are wrong on the 71 VN jacks. They are the same as the 70 VN jacks. As you stated in a different thread, you are basing your information on the MPC which does not even support YOUR premise. You do not have any real data supporting your premise and you ignore any data that goes against it. The real data I have (granted not a lot) shows the VN jack used in 71 in both Firebirds and A-bodies. You rightfully complain about others spreading misinformation, yet, that is what you are doing now.
Yea.. you got me. I am just on huge d!ck on a mission to spread incorrect info on 1970 and 71 Firebirds.. Great I was wondering who would be the one to catch me .. I am just tossing coins to decide on what I'll say next.. Sorry guys.. I have been exposed, just full of s!ht when it comes to 1970 and 71 Firebirds.. you got me

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Old 12-07-2013, 03:19 PM
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Thats why said my 70 has a "Y" in the trunk...I don't know if it was put in there in Norwood Ohio or Evergreen park Illlinois. But I do know it was in there in 1975 along with the original spare. LOL

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Craig.. who knows.. we now know anything I say is maliciously planted as false info.. So if I said Norwood plant cars had the gold plated jack and yours has the Y, well that is proof again I am full of sh!t..Ask 68 bird, he surely knows the answers..

Oh.. and my disclosure:
I do not mean to offend anyone personally or professionally, This is my opinion only, I do not know anything about cars(actually I drive a moped) and.... of yea.. did I say I know nothing about Firebirds, nothing at all ..

Craig, you know this is not directed at you. you have a thick skin and have known for a long time I am full of sh!t

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