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Old 01-23-2020, 09:19 PM
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Default "Witah" is here and extension cords are NOT the only "HARD" wires..

OK, so I know about the "Blue" low temp extension cords, I have one. IT does work well in the cold ( below freezing).( below zero for our northern friends)
BUT, I have Never Ever seen Jumper Cables made like the blue extension cords.
Freezing Jumper Cables just **8vhjtgfvt*
So anyone know of any, or are going to make themselves some money by making some?
I did look at a few CRREL requests from the NSF,( stuff used at the south pole) but none are for Jumper cables, or even wire big enough to make some that is flexible.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:39 PM
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The best jumper cables I ever owned were made from welding cable.

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Old 01-23-2020, 10:56 PM
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The best jumper cables I ever owned were made from welding cable.
Great Idea! Thats what I was looking for. I should have thought of that, but I do not stick weld much . I will look into the wire..

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Old 01-23-2020, 11:49 PM
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I have a set my dad made using welding cable probably 50 years ago. They're still very flexible even at -20F, plus with the heavy gauge copper there's very little voltage drop. If you go that route make sure to get the best clamps you can find, most of them are pretty chintzy.

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Old 01-23-2020, 11:59 PM
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Being "in the South", this conversation is eye opening for me. I had never considered what extreme cold temps do to plastic coated electrical cords. Never heard about "Blue" cords either.
BTW, today was another cold one at 54 degrees.

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Old 01-24-2020, 12:06 AM
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I laugh whole heartedly at your "cold" 54 degrees....
BAH-HA-HA!!



(someone, please help get me and my family out of this frigid wasteland!!!)

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Old 01-24-2020, 12:21 AM
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I laugh whole heartedly at your "cold" 54 degrees....
BAH-HA-HA!!



(someone, please help get me and my family out of this frigid wasteland!!!)



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Old 01-24-2020, 01:09 AM
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Being "in the South", this conversation is eye opening for me. I had never considered what extreme cold temps do to plastic coated electrical cords. Never heard about "Blue" cords either.
BTW, today was another cold one at 54 degrees.
You did it again..I was thinking the same thing when I read the OP. Never even crossed my mind that you'd need special jumper cables or extension cords for cold weather.
By the way, it's been freezing here! Literally...it was below 32 degrees for two nights in a row this week! ;0

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Old 01-24-2020, 09:20 AM
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We had a pair made from 00 welding cable. If you could manage to carry them, they worked well until they were "appropriated" by someone else. I need to make another set.

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It tends to get pretty cold at times in the mid atlantic but I have never heard of
'cold weather' cords. I do know that the ones we use tend to get stiff and can be a bit of a pain at times. Same thing with air hoses.
I have a set of heavy duty jumpers in my work truck that are extra long as well. Hopefully I dont have to use them too often. But they are pretty flexible in cold weather. I have had them so long I dont remember where they came from.

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Old 01-24-2020, 09:34 AM
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Welding cables have fine AWG copper and supple upjacket.

Battery Cables & Jumer Cables have coares AWG wires & craap upjacket.

00 to 2 AWG ranges for Welding Cable will solves all these concerns for fair money.

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Old 01-24-2020, 11:32 AM
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How much money you got?

Polar wire in AK has good cabling or whole assemblies.

Otherwise, the Energizer brand is a lot cheaper and can be found in 1 gauge or 2 gauge for under $100 (I think) and can be found at auto parts stores. Only "bad" thing is copper clad aluminum cabling and the clamps seem bulky.

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I too have a pair made out of old welding cable ... actually cable from a 1950's military surplus welder. Heavy, and super floppy in any weather .... insulation appears to be some kind of rubber.

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Vinyl insulation is the worst..it's normally stiff but turns into a stick with cold weather.

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Old 01-24-2020, 12:22 PM
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when I was boosting my wifes car last week (it was somewhere south of -22f; it got cold enough that my car was showing an out side temperature of "---"!!) the coating on one of the jumper clamp ends wholly popped off!
it made me chuckle;
I have one of those blue sets of jumper cables, they are hefty... but aside from their weight, always easy to use - this cannot be said about the lighter gauge jumper cables.

on a funny side note, I have had those those blue exterior extension chords snap on me.

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Old 01-24-2020, 01:03 PM
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I just found these;

https://www.amazon.ca/Performance-To.../dp/B00AETUVM4

they are described as "4 gauge";
it appears as though the cables are colour coded for their gauge:
10 gauge = black/red
8 gauge = black/yellow
6 gauge = black/orange
4 gauge = black/blue
2 gauge = black

It appears as though Summit sells the same black/blue wires here:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/w...0aAo2rEALw_wcB

I believe the ones I have are only blue... they can be awkward because of their heft.

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I like when it gets cold enough you can take a cord and stand it upright.

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USA Price for Performance cables above, very reasonable price.

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-T...2&sr=8-1-fkmr1

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Old 01-24-2020, 03:18 PM
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I like when it gets cold enough you can take a cord and stand it upright.
Cold around here is when you can set a 12 pack of beer on the back porch, leave it there for couple hours & it will cool off, but not freeze

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When I lived in Edmonton I didn't dare drive without top notch cables on board. Virtually every car had a block heater as well. It could get to -40 and stay like that for a whole week or more.

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