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#41
08-31-2011, 03:26 PM
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"What do you think?"
Lucky basterd...thats what i think.
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#42
08-31-2011, 03:43 PM
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That car is looking better and better in every pic. Did the previous owner ever tell you what happen to it and why it sat so long ?
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#43
08-31-2011, 04:08 PM
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Said the clutch was out of it so he parked it and it hasn't moved since. Had plans to fix it up but he had no idea ho to do any work. Kind of ignorant though cause he originally told me it was a 3-speed car and had been sitting for about 16 years. Turns out it had been sitting for over thirty years, and well it wasn't a 3-speed. |
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#44
08-31-2011, 04:44 PM
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did you get it running?
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#45
08-31-2011, 06:16 PM
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You saved it!
Only a matter of time with that wall.
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#46
08-31-2011, 08:23 PM
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The factory air cleaner would be a single snorkel. The snorkel would point to driver side - and a flex tube would fit onto the underside of the snorkel - and other end of flex would go to driver exh man. What is the number of the carb you have ? Since you have 03C build date, you would most likely need a 69 dated 7028273 (68 part number-69 date code). Maybe you'll find a buildsheet on top of gas tank too. The carb on car is either an automatic carb, or a manual carb that has been remanufactured and had the modulator vacuum nipple added. Thats how i knew it was not the factory original carb earlier in thread. It also has the vac spout on passenger throttle base for the dual port distributor vacuum advance used on some 68's and supposedly some early 69's. Since you have hood tach and electric clock, its probably got factory gauges in left dash pod - instead of idiot lights. Those 3 things usually tend to run together. |
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#47
08-31-2011, 08:29 PM
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#48
08-31-2011, 08:34 PM
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It does have factory gauges, not idiot lights. Also, dug into the axle and it's a ZK with the 3.90....SCORE!!! Has the "N" on the top. Tranny also has the exact same number as the engine and VIN, 17785. I knew in my heart it had it all i'm just finally getting around to verifying. I didn't want to snoop around the car to much and raise any questions to the guy we bought it from. |
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#49
08-31-2011, 08:45 PM
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What a find. Always great to see the "special" ones like this surface...
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#50
08-31-2011, 09:30 PM
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Amazing find, congrats! Windward Blue is beautiful color. Have fun with it!
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#51
08-31-2011, 09:39 PM
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try and read it again. pull the plugs and put some marvel mystery oil in each cylinder. let it soak for a while before turning over by hand and put more in,repeat the next day.
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#52
08-31-2011, 09:58 PM
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I'd have given 3k for it 25 years ago in that same condition. Although it was probably just a little nicer 25 years ago. You'll have to excuse my fascination with carbs. But like Cammer said, too many numbers. Also see if there is a 2 character alpha code like YZ for example. The date leads me to believe it is possibly an SR carb of 1977 origin. Any good speed shop will have an oil pump primer for a Chevy. Buy One. The beauty of that is it also works for Pontiacs - except you set your drill to run counter-clockwise on Pontiac. Fresh oil and filter, then pull distributor and run that oil pump primer until every rocker arm has oil flowing over it. Do this in accordance with Marvel in the cylinder holes. As sometimes you have to rotate the engine periodically to get all the rocker arms flowing. I'd also bypass the gas tank and institute a small fuel supply container underhood. The tank and lines will probably need inspection/attention/or replacements. |
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#53
08-31-2011, 10:09 PM
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Being a parts replacement 77' carb makes sense because the owner told me he had just put on a "new" carb. Beings it was last registered in 78,' it makes sense. I'll run back down the street and see if he has the original carb just by chance. Doubt it because I went high and low through his garage looking for parts. Last edited by sehorn; 08-31-2011 at 10:16 PM. |
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#54
08-31-2011, 10:19 PM
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#55
08-31-2011, 10:30 PM
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More...
Sorry, for posting so many I just know you'll know more about this car then me and may find it exciting. I know i do! |
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#56
08-31-2011, 10:39 PM
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Yes, it is an SR unit. 7028276 (last mark is an impression from the roll stamper)
Date would be somewhere in May 1977. And it would cover/be correct SR for manual or auto 68 R/A Bird - although it is numbered for an auto. Thats how they did it after leftover production units were depleted from stock on the R/A carbs. A core is not required when a new one is purchased. But.... he might have gotten waxed out of it by a greedy counterman - or by his mechanic. No telling. It would be worth another dig or convo with guy - A 69 dated 7028273 carb in good proper core condition would be 1k-2k or + on retail market. A good core 7029273 would be about what you paid for the car. Yep. |
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#57
08-31-2011, 11:40 PM
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We tell guys this all the time. Some do - and some don't.
I'd clean scrub degrease the heck out of that thang and drive it for the experience. Flush fill fluids, new brakes, repack front whl brgs, tires and maybe exhaust - Go Man Go. lol SoS pads and/or 000 steel wool cleans up rusty/stained/pitted chrome, and stainless, real nice. That shifter arm will look almost new again. 000 will also make glass sparkle clean without scratching it. Scotchbrite on the paint surface stains should get them decent or better. Green (household) is softest. Practically no dulling. Grey is next harshest. Some mild dulling. Red is harshest and will dull finish a bit - but if thats what it takes .... I'd wanna drive that rascal good and proper before restoration. Of course it has to be running first ... and you mentioned the clutch. Everybody loves pictures, and Ram-engined Bird projects. Somewhere in Cali a 69 Brown Bird owner is foaming at the jaws and convulsing. 
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#58
09-01-2011, 09:12 AM
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29L117785 P9M28
Any letter after the P9M28? Tranny original, made Aug 28, 1969. 
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#59
09-01-2011, 01:55 PM
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Seems like have seen similar examples. The 9 represents the model year of its production (target) - not necessarily always coinciding with calender year of its production. Which would put its manufacture Aug 28 1968. Still quite a spread on a 3rd week of March 69 body. But makes more sense than tranny being built 5 months AFTER the car. ouch Maybe that plant didnt build many cars with 390's/M21 apps up to that point. Anyone else have opinions ? Looks completely virgin. I also goofed on the carb date - It would have been in JUNE 1977. Whatever the 171st day of 77 was. |
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#60
09-01-2011, 02:02 PM
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Another thought about the oil change.
If you get really messy stuff (molasses, tar, asphalt) when you drain whatever is in it - might want to fill crankcase with diesel fuel or kerosene and let it soak some. I've dealt with 10-20 year old motor oil on cars stored indoors. Don't know what to expect on one sitting 30 years outside. Might be funky. The Brown Bird owner in Cali was a guy they named Sybil - he was real special to us. Last edited by Baron Von Zeppelin; 09-01-2011 at 02:10 PM. |
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