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#4401
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Very faint but you do see what looks like could be the 23.
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1973 Formula 400 4 spd 04C build date Norwood assembly plant. |
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Just trying to learn more about my car... I posted the PHS a few posts back....and was wondering.... When a Formula 455 was ordered with the SD engine option.... Were there any options that were mandatory when the SD box was checked? I know things like posi...gauges... Y-99... etc was standard on the Trans Am...but were optional on the Formula.... But were they mandatory with the SD engine option???
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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That's a good question. My guess would be no.
But, a RAIV did have mandatory posi, and the buyer paid for it regardless. So maybe? Also, why no AC on 4 speeds again?
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I'm a little rusty on the mandatory option question, but the SD option was more expensive on the Formula than the Trans Am, and my recollection is it had to do with the transmission. Formulas had 3 speed manual as standard, and the SD was only available with automatic or 4 speed.
The no A/C with 4 speed is a multi-faceted issue. The standard rear end ratio in the SD powered Bird was the 3.42. When A/C was installed, the vehicle could not pass the radiator cooling/overheating tests with the 3.42's. The car was able to pass these tests by switching to 3.08's, but the SD and 3.08 combo could not pass emission tests with the 4 speed transmission. So, Pontiac was not able to offer the 4 speed-A/C combo. |
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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have seen formula SD's without gauges, doesn't mean they were right, but what I have seen.
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On the Formula you had to order just about everything otherwise you got a stripped car. The T/A came with just about every performance related component, standard (gauges, spoilers, handing package, Formula Steering wheel, 15" wheels...) Here is the two page window sticker from my car:
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I read somewhere that the SD engine option was special order only.... I assume some were ordered for dealer stock too??? Is there any way to tell on the PHS if a car was special ordered? I'm technically the 2nd titled owner on my car... I bought it from a guy that bought it from the 1st owners wife. The guy I bought it from only had it for 2 weeks.
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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I know a SD-455 Formula ordered without A/C got the Safety-track 342 Posi rear end as a standard item.
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Only way to know is by GM memo?
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Mike/Illinois |
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Sorry if this has already been asked and answered, but looking at Steve's window sticker -so, if you ordered a car without the "Functional Ram Air Delete" option, did you then get an SD formula with the traditional formula hood scoops and functional ram air?
BJ
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1971 GTO 455 HO 4-speed - Cameo White, White Vinyl Top, Jade Green Interior, Ram Air Hood, AC, Honeycombs and 8-track 1974 Formula 455 I Owned in 1975-1976. Now Own Its Twin From Same Dealership |
#4415
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No, the TA hood was required with the SD engine.
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The engine that was standard depended on the year that it was ordered. In 73-74 the standard engine in the Formula was the 350 2bbl with duel exhaust. The standard engine in the Trans Am for 73 was the 455 4bbl. In 74 the Trans Am engine was changed to the 400 4bbl. If you ordered the SD engine you could not have the Formula hood you were forced to get the Trans Am Shaker. All other options were as the base Formula. Posi-rear had to be ordered the rear spoiler hade to be ordered, the Formula Wheel was a line item order. Formulas came with 3 spd manual transmissions and could be ordered with a 4 spd or automatic which ever you ordered depended on engine, transmission combo and priced accordingly. In the Formula your engine's standard 350 2bbl. Optional engines were in order all with duel exhast 400 2bbl,400 4bbl, 455 4bbl, or the SD-455. Ram air was an option with the 400 4bbl or the 455 4bbl only. I was 17 in 74 and placed an order for a SD-Formula and still remember what you had to do to get one.
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The functional ram air delete credit relates to the TA shaker hood. The hood scoop had an opening door in 1970 thru 1972, and was suppose to have one in 1973, too. Pontiac set their pricing for the 1973's based on a functioning scoop. Just prior to the 73's availability, EPA set the noise standards for the 73 model year, and the TA scoop could not pass the full throttle test when the door opened. Pontiac's solution was to remove the solenoids, rivet the door shut, and applied a credit for the deleted feature.
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All SD's got 3.42's, unless you ordered A/C, then it got 3.08's, plus forced THM. There was no ability for customer to select a ratio. Strictly determined by whether you wanted A/C or not.
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Good informative posts Frank! Learning SD is always fun.
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Mike/Illinois |
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Emission Impossible - Exploring the Differences Between Pontiac's First- and Second-Type 1973 Emissions Control Systems By Rocky Rotella, Photography By Rocky Rotella Quote:
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