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Reading through the various forums that pop up here concerning paint.
I felt that there is something very important that needs to be said. Bassically there's two types of paint products available. The first would be the acrylis lacquers, and enamels. The other would be the newer acrylic urethans. I woont go into the positive specifics of both these paints. BUT I WILL WARN OF THE DANGERS!!! Acrylic lacquers and enamels have this nasty little ingrediant in them called LEAD. Lead causes permanent brain damage, and is in you body for life. It'le also cause respiratory problems, permanent damage to your heart, liver, etc. etc. Eventually causing death. Acrylic Urethanes don't have lead in them. But because you need to mix 2 chemicals together, you end up with another nasty little chemical called ISOCYANIDE. Isocyanite also causes all the little nasties that lead based paints do. Plus it has the added benifit of being able to be absorbed through the pores in your skin. The only thing it doesn't do is stay in your body forever. As time away from this chemical increases, the level of concentration will decrease. One way to know if you've suffered isocyanite poisining is this. If upon completion of spraying a urethane product. You find yourself feeling very sleepy, and then find yourself "wired" a short time later. CONGRAGULATIONS!!! You've just suffered Isocyanite poisining. The purpose of this preaching is very simple. Please use caution, and sound judgment when using any of these products. Make sure you have plenty of good ventilation. Invest in a NIOSH approved disposable respirator at the minimum. It would be a shame to go to all the trouble to restore a car, then not be able to enjoy it due to health problems from painting. In the short time I've been involved in Pontiacs. I've met some truley great people. So I'm writing this as a friendly warning of the dangers involved.
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Reading through the various forums that pop up here concerning paint.
I felt that there is something very important that needs to be said. Bassically there's two types of paint products available. The first would be the acrylis lacquers, and enamels. The other would be the newer acrylic urethans. I woont go into the positive specifics of both these paints. BUT I WILL WARN OF THE DANGERS!!! Acrylic lacquers and enamels have this nasty little ingrediant in them called LEAD. Lead causes permanent brain damage, and is in you body for life. It'le also cause respiratory problems, permanent damage to your heart, liver, etc. etc. Eventually causing death. Acrylic Urethanes don't have lead in them. But because you need to mix 2 chemicals together, you end up with another nasty little chemical called ISOCYANIDE. Isocyanite also causes all the little nasties that lead based paints do. Plus it has the added benifit of being able to be absorbed through the pores in your skin. The only thing it doesn't do is stay in your body forever. As time away from this chemical increases, the level of concentration will decrease. One way to know if you've suffered isocyanite poisining is this. If upon completion of spraying a urethane product. You find yourself feeling very sleepy, and then find yourself "wired" a short time later. CONGRAGULATIONS!!! You've just suffered Isocyanite poisining. The purpose of this preaching is very simple. Please use caution, and sound judgment when using any of these products. Make sure you have plenty of good ventilation. Invest in a NIOSH approved disposable respirator at the minimum. It would be a shame to go to all the trouble to restore a car, then not be able to enjoy it due to health problems from painting. In the short time I've been involved in Pontiacs. I've met some truley great people. So I'm writing this as a friendly warning of the dangers involved.
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Hmmm
re-reading my grammer mistakes, I begin to wonder if I've spent too much time around these chemicals [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Marty ,
Very good education topic for the board members . Also new test show that alot of the fumes are absorbed through the eyes . A complete face mask would be the wise choice . Also when working with lacquer thinner , wear plastic gloves . After working with out the gloves , lacquer thinner can be deteched in your urine .
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Doe's this explain the runs in my paint?
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Garry LOL!
Don't let Rash' know this sh!t, he'll be hyper-ventelayting acrylic urethanes like a mo'fo! Remember Rash' toke, toke, pass! You Bogart!
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Yea' but epoxies are ths KONA BUD of the paint fume world!
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Now this is truly a learning experience!
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Great topic for the boards! ISOs are VERY NASTY! I would recommend a fresh air supplied respirator if working in an enclosed booth or a garage.
I sprayed DP40 and PPG K38 over the last few days. Fortunately it was very good weather with a small breeze and I was able to leave both garage doors open and had great ventilation. Even then, I had a NIOSHA approved respirator, facemask, long sleeve shirt and plastic gloves on. I then leave the area when finished for a few hours. Don't take chances! Protect yourself. Don |
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I have learned the hard way that not all rubber gloves are compatible with paint, so be carefull on glove sellection.
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Garry
If your getting runs in your paint , I would recommand that you use the new strainers that strain the runs out of the paint . They work very well ! LOL
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Use the nitrile type gloves, they'll hold up to all solvents I've tried.
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One other thing to be aware of with painting, where do your exiting fumes go to? I've done all my paint/body work for years when I lived out of town. Now that I live in city limits I cannot simply exhaust my toxic fumes into the air, there are E.P.A. laws that vary from state to state, so check to see if you legally can paint in your garage. The neighbors get really ticked when they see the kids in the yard and they come in smelling like paint, one phone call, you're in doo doo. And there is no way to cover up the fact you where painting, they will smell it in your garage right off. What I do now is all the body/prep work and I rent time in the local bodyshop after hours to spray the nasty stuff. Not only does this protect you, you get to use better equipment to paint with. Most bodyshops like easy money, so they are willing to let you use the shop for a small fee, some of them will even stay evenings to do the books [or read dirty mags] and will coach you through if you get stuck. It works well for me so find a bodyshop, suck up a little, buy him a 12 pack and a Penthouse, and spray away.
Good luck, Doug
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