[Scott Thelander]

I have this labeled as 69 Firebird with a Muncie can anyone verify for me thank you

[Sport69]

Looks like one to me. Can't read the tag, does it say for Firebird?

[rwfisher]

Appears correct.. Planning to sell?

[Tellyshavilli]

Try to look tomorrow

[A Schab]

No. That’s for a Auto. The Muncie swivel only has two bolts that hold it to the sub frame.

[Scott Thelander]

Hmmmmm

Must be 69 Camaro then

I had several 69 hurst shifters at one time in history
68 firebird 2.
69 firebird 2or3
69 small block Camaro
69 bb Camaro hurst complete linkage w mount plate

I will look more on line tonite too
Thanks gents


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[unruhjonny]

if you can post the stamped (full or partial) numbers on those rods, I am sure someone can confirm it for you.

[Scott Thelander]

no stamping anywhere or on anything

yes I am going thru some f body stuff getting ready to

[A Schab]

The upper rod fits all Firebird and Camaro. The Muncie swivel is also shared with both cars.

[Scott Thelander]

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=702075

# 11 post

danm wish cammer was still around ,,,, his picture is exactly what I have .. exactly

[A Schab]

Scott,send me your e-mail and I will send you a picture. I don’t know how to post one on here. You could post it here for others then.

[comanchefirebird]

Hi Scott,
The pictures you initially posted look correct for a 69 Firebird with manual trans.
I have 4 of them here, all have provisions for 3 bolt screws to attach to the subframe.
Steve

[Scott Thelander]

Thanks to all that took time to post a message
To a small trivial item like this…
So
Here are a few more angles of my linkage,
My upper rod seems real straight less a soft bend
3.5” up from the adjuster some I have seen like the picture of my buddies has a bigger kink ,,,
My swivel is nearly flat looking down from the top long arm has a 1/4" offset to the frame side
I have seen a few with a good/bigger offset bend near the end for the linkage rods
Also looking from the side my swivel arms make a Y shape

Many I looked at have them at a 90 degree orientation making the rod holes farther apart
20” center to center. On long my long rod to the trans ... seems a saginaw would be shorter and 3 speed also
12.5 end to center on vertical column rod

What are yours??? When you have time

Scott

[Scott Thelander]

So
A friend sent this picture of his original from his 69 RAIV TA. Just to liven up the discussion

His has 2 bolts and looks like his upper has a bigger bend farther up

The swivel looks a bit diff its brackets are at a 90 degree not a Y like mine ,,,,

And looks like I may have my rods in the wrong holes ????

[comanchefirebird]

Hi Scott,
I tried to crawl under the cars but cant get a useful pic
Attached is a pic of the 69 Service manual
This pic agrees with the layout of the reverse lockout on my two 69 4 speed cars (RAIII with M21 and RAIII w/M20)
Hope that helps,
Steve

[Scott Thelander]

Thank you for the picture !!
I Just returned from getting my manuals and took a couple pictures also here’s a couple pictures of the linkage in a different direction similar to the manual thank you Steve as you stated and as the book shows it’s a Y On the idler leveler and my idler lever has the same shape and kinks as in the manual picture also has three mounting bolts the vertical lever to the column has a slight kink about 3 inches up and then straight just like mine and the reverse back Drive linkage rod has the same wiggles also so I think we’re getting really close with any of those 69‘s come with a two bolt support assembly just curious or the vertical steering column rod with a little bit bigger band in the middle thank you kindly don’t need to be touched up too much but just curious

[unruhjonny]

Scott;

Those two in the middle look like second gen Firebird three speed reverse rods.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...9&d=1646612656

I had recently been sorting my own manual transmission shift linkage;
I was hoping to figure out if I had any correct second gen Firebird Muncie four speed linkage (which I do not).

[turbo69bird]

I’d be interested in knowing the build date on the cars . The 69RAIv w the two bolts and the 69 RAIII w the 3 bolts.


One of mine has 5290 on it and an S on the other side, this is not the bracket that bolts to the car (3 bolt by the way) but the part that swivels. Onto that piece .

[A Schab]

The IV car is 08 E.

[turbo69bird]

Believe mine is 03B

This pictured part is the part with the number and S on the back .