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Old 11-11-2012, 10:32 PM
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do you happen to have the 70 gto rear defroster vent?

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Old 05-14-2013, 08:41 PM
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Default 1970 400 rear deck emblem

Time to wake this thread up..........

Thought I posted some pics of this back when we first started this thread,but guess not,so here they are....

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part number 9808505
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Time to wake this thread up..........

Thought I posted some pics of this back when we first started this thread,but guess not,so here they are....

Group 12.182
part number 9808505
I remember we found a GM of Canada parts catalog that showed this to be a trunk lid emblem (plate, actually) for a 1970 Firebird 400. Google "emblem 9808505" & the link should come up.

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Old 05-14-2013, 10:50 PM
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Time to wake this thread up..........

Thought I posted some pics of this back when we first started this thread,but guess not,so here they are....

Group 12.182
part number 9808505
must be for a '70 Esprit with 400-2 bbl (?)

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Old 05-15-2013, 01:51 AM
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must be for a '70 Esprit with 400-2 bbl (?)
Perhaps. But the catalog (spelled catalogue in the link. French Canadian??) lists the fit as 22387, 22487 & 22687.
I'm thinking, IMHO, that Pontiac may have considered continuing the 1st Gen. Firebird 400 plan with a 400 emblem for the trunk lid, but canceled the plan before volume production started, but after the emblems had been ordered from an outside vendor.

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Seems to me,the illustration in the parts catalog clearly showed it on the right rear lower corner of the deck lid for the 22687 model.......now to find the book I saw it in...

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Seems to me,the illustration in the parts catalog clearly showed it on the right rear lower corner of the deck lid for the 22687 model.......now to find the book I saw it in...
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That's one...THANKS!

Do the illustrations for the 22387 & 22487 show it as well?

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Old 05-15-2013, 02:58 PM
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Time to wake this thread up..........

Thought I posted some pics of this back when we first started this thread,but guess not,so here they are....

Group 12.182
part number 9808505
...and I repeat;

WHOA!!!

I am frankly floored at seeing that...

Would you consider selling it?

(please)

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That's one...THANKS!

Do the illustrations for the 22387 & 22487 show it as well?
nope, this trunki badge is 100% specific to the '70 Formula 400 - and appears to be a part which was discontinued from production vehicles early on;
I believe a couple of my MPC's list it, but I have never seen one before.

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That's one...THANKS!

Do the illustrations for the 22387 & 22487 show it as well?
I mentioned I saw a base 400 Bird with this in 1982 , This supports that.. That said, as RA111 has said, doesnt make it the last word..
This mentions models in the trim section, doesnt exclude the std, or Esprit in the single part number either.
Pontiac Marketing was gearing for a Firebird 400, and with good reason, they had a successful one already.


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I am posting here rather than create a new thread. What are the bolt specifications for the bolt that screws into the rear of the alternator for the rear bracket on 1970 models? I am missing the bolt.

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As mentioned, the core support for the 70 is a one year only.

What do you look for to confirm you have a 70 core support? Pictures would be great.
Any help is appreciated.

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The stamped baffle area is different. Picture one is of a 1970 core support and shows the bracket for the evap cannister (used only on cars sold new in CA.) Picture two shows a 71 core support in front of a 70 core support. Picture three shows a 71 style evap canister and bracket.

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As mentioned, the core support for the 70 is a one year only.

What do you look for to confirm you have a 70 core support? Pictures would be great.
Any help is appreciated.

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Good job, Eaglesan. Zyman, did you ever find the bolt you needed? I notice no one replied. If you didn't, I'll post a pic.

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The stamped baffle area is different. Picture one is of a 1970 core support and shows the bracket for the evap cannister (used only on cars sold new in CA.) Picture two shows a 71 core support in front of a 70 core support. Picture three shows a 71 style evap canister and bracket.
Hmmm.... that's interesting. I have a core support that I got from an 06A Norwood '70 T/A (still has its original tune up decal...) that looks like the '71 core support in your picture. I wonder if this was another "running change"....?

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The stamped baffle area is different. Picture one is of a 1970 core support and shows the bracket for the evap cannister (used only on cars sold new in CA.) Picture two shows a 71 core support in front of a 70 core support. Picture three shows a 71 style evap canister and bracket.
Thanks Chris, very helpful!

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At 2:03 of this video, can see the 400 emblem on the rear deck lid of the firebird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02eULOTP6CA

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At 2:03 of this video, can see the 400 emblem on the rear deck lid of the firebird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02eULOTP6CA
Great catch... but, that car appears to be a prototype.

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Yes, likely an early hand built main body used to test fit & function of different sub-assemblies.

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