[242177P]

Originally Posted by The Champ

... but that salesman didn't know anything about the Volt.

I remember them! They only got 23 mpg

[unruhjonny]

bah-ha-ha!
I never saw that!

[Formulabruce]

4 doors, may has well called it a Ghia :P

[TAKerry]

First gen mustang peaked in sales at 3 years new, once the 'newness' wore off they declined steadily for the next 7 years. When the " II " came out, its first year sales made it the best selling mustang since 1967! That looks like a pretty successful/popular car to me. My point was that as horrible as these cars are deemed to be today, they were quite popular when they came out. Dont get me wrong, I have no love loss for these things. Def NOT on my bucket list of cars to own!

[Firedup6975]

CRIKEY!!

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by TAKerry

When the " II " came out, its first year sales made it the best selling mustang since 1967! That looks like a pretty successful/popular car to me.

I refer you back to my earlier post where I pointed out that the Mustang II was a better looking Pinto.

The Mustang II was nothing more that a glorified Ford Pinto. It sold better because it was better looking (that wasn't hard to do). It was an economy car. Even with the very anemic 6 cylinder - it was gutless.

I had plenty of experience with the standard powertrain while stationed in Germany from 1974 - 1977. I frequently transported classified material between our HQ in Pirmasnes to USAEUR HQ in Heidelberg.

The Army started replacing the venerable AMC Ambassadors with Pinto's because of the fuel crisis in the early 70's. Funny thing, the AMC sedans with the 232 ci 6 cylinder delivered as good or better mileage than the 4 cylinder Pinto.

The Mustang II was and still is a failure for what the Mustang was supposed to be.

To prove my point - look at the 2nd year sales of the Mustang II. Sales were less than half of 1974's number (386,000 down to 188,500), and less than the 1970 version.

If the Mustang II was a success - it should have had increasing sales in years 2.... But it tanked after people found out how bad it was.

[TAKerry]

I took my dl test in a Pinto, 4 speed. It was my sisters car. My brother in law got a decent job out of HS and bought both a 72 Gran Torino (which I ended up buying from him) and a 72 Pinto hatchback at the same time. Pinto was his work car, Torino was for weekends. They were nothing special, and if I had the choice now I would take a Pinto over a Mustang II.

[Firedup6975]

Where’s Tom Vaught when ya need him lol. oh Tom.......... what’s your take on this?

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by TAKerry

...and if I had the choice now I would take a Pinto over a Mustang II.

Thanks for proving my point about the "success" of the Mustang II....

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Remember, they already did this experiment in 1965.
Very very few sold, and extremely hard to find one now.
4cyl and 4 Wheel Drive "Bronco-Stang"
Some call them Mustang 44's
and others say Mustang Mach IV

[400 4spd.]

Originally Posted by TAKerry

I took my dl test in a Pinto, 4 speed. It was my sisters car. My brother in law got a decent job out of HS and bought both a 72 Gran Torino (which I ended up buying from him) and a 72 Pinto hatchback at the same time. Pinto was his work car, Torino was for weekends. They were nothing special, and if I had the choice now I would take a Pinto over a Mustang II.

For a couple of years (late 70's) I owned a really clean (and green) '73 Pinto Runabout (big glass and hatch vs. trunk lid) with the German built 1600 and four speed. Other engines offered later were the 2000 cc (British?) and the 'big" 2300 (American). Mustang II followed suit with the two larger engines, a V6 and the butt kicking 302 V8.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Remember, they already did this experiment in 1965.
Very very few sold, and extremely hard to find one now.
4cyl and 4 Wheel Drive "Bronco-Stang"
Some call them Mustang 44's
and others say Mustang Mach IV

You realize that's not real, right?

But what if Ford did the same thing with the 1965 Mustang? Would it have received the same flak as the Mustang Mach-E?

That's the exact train of thought by the folks over at Abimelec Design. Posted over at their Facebook page, the design gurus made a realistic rendering of a Mustang wagon dubbed as the Mustang Mach-4.

https://www.motor1.com/news/384106/1...gon-rendering/

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Stuart

You realize that's not real, right?

It just needs to be real long enough for Mary Anne to see it