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Old 10-24-2024, 10:36 AM
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this 66 Gto is on ebay, no engine or transmission. pictures are always deceiving as everyone knows, especially with the faded paint and various primer sprays. I can see in a trunk view and barely outside passenger side view of a sub standard quarter panel patch effort. i'm sure theres more. but thats to be expected i suppose. seems like a $9,000 car to me?

anyway, what do you think its worth? asking price 22 or best offer. I actually like the car and am looking. hope the link works. another unusual column shift car. but I love the no engine or trans. care less about numbers stuff, i like clean modern upgrades yet stock looking cars.

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Old 10-24-2024, 04:03 PM
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My opinion... Car is column shift auto (not desirable), no engine or trans, looks solid but needs a paint job and a lot of parts. It is not a $22k car prolly more like a $9-10K car. My dad was just offered a NICE driver matching numbers 68 GTO for $35k.


I am not sure if it's Mecum or what it is but people are asking stupid money for rough and even very rough roller restoration projects. Facebook Marketplace makes you shake your head. Here is an example. I looked at this car in the flesh, it needs every panel, no motor, no trans, no interior. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...0-ca62088ab15c

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yeh agree, lotta salvage yard cars out there like that.

the column shift would be quickly tossed for a 4 speed. I like em like that for negotiating the undesirable for less money.

none the less, it still needs a full restoration. fortunately, I do everything myself and even then its stupid expensive so you have to buy em right for sure.

I have noticed there is a sweet spot like the $35,000 68 Gto you mentioned. finding a car that doesnt need much in the $30,000 to $40,000 range is that sweet spot to me. I never like to put more money in em than there worth.

i'm going to watch this car, probably make an offer but not sure. few others i'm eyeing!

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New primer makes me nervous and I would much rather have bare, even rusty, untouched metal so I know what is there. A paint thickness gauge would be very helpful.

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Interesting that it's had the underside of the hood cut for ram air like was performed at the dealership. I agree with Mick regarding the primer. With primer on pretty much the entire lower section of the doors and quarter panels, I'd assume it has rust/thin metal down there which will need to be addressed. Trunk is "solid" but appears to have had a patch panel thrown in. It has a visible quarter panel patch seam on the passenger side, and I'd assume the same for driver side but cannot see in photos. Radiator core support is deformed on the bottom and appears to have had a tow strap hooked onto it at some point.

It's a nice candidate for restoration, but definitely not a $22k car in current form. Maybe half of that seems fair.

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yeh agree, lotta salvage yard cars out there like that.

the column shift would be quickly tossed for a 4 speed. I like em like that for negotiating the undesirable for less money.

none the less, it still needs a full restoration. fortunately, I do everything myself and even then its stupid expensive so you have to buy em right for sure.

I have noticed there is a sweet spot like the $35,000 68 Gto you mentioned. finding a car that doesnt need much in the $30,000 to $40,000 range is that sweet spot to me. I never like to put more money in em than there worth.

i'm going to watch this car, probably make an offer but not sure. few others i'm eyeing!
I agree that 30-35k seems to be a sweet spot to find a nice car that doesn't need much to enjoy. I am lightly watching for a 68 GTO or Firebird right now. (preferably Verdoro Green) What I really want is a roller to finish into another Pure Stock drag car so I don't have to feel guilty changing a numbers car. My 66 GTO will be ready to go racin' in 2025 after a fairly extensive mechanical refresh.

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No engine, no transmission and can guarantee there is more rust than what shows. 8k-10k for me.

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Interesting that it's had the underside of the hood cut for ram air like was performed at the dealership.
That is interesting.

Maybe get the PHS and see if it's a Ram Air car.

Stranger things have happened: https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...hlight=ram+air

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I'm on the same page of all y'alls comments and same keen eyes.

I noticed the cut hood right away as well. and primer is always obvious problems.
patch in quarter etc. says its a tripower car.

agree to, I love the no engine and trans, let me re-phrase a comment I made. I respect the numbers matching stuff, its just not for me. I love to put modern upgraded pontiac engines and transmissions in a car I restore. but a stock look as much as possible. don't want to modify an all original car nor can/would I pay the price tag for one. I enjoy racing them and drivin em all the time. mine dont get put away for winter. roads dry i'm driving. love that pure stock racing category.

been looking for another pontiac since I finished my firebird bit over a year ago. getting close, visited a friend in kentucky couple weeks ago almost came to terms on a 66 lemans there. have a 67 Gto near me but not ready to pull the trigger on that one, my son just informed me a friend of a friend has a 1960's something lemans convertable he wants to sell so eagerly waiting to hear on that, and my daughter is a nurse that travels to rural homes for patient care and she said she saw an old pontiac in a barn and is going to ask about it for me when she gos back in a week or to.

66 Gto's made a huge impression on me. those awesome tail lights. first one i saw I was in 7th grade delivering newspapers (i'm 63). walked by the garage and the hood was open asked my brother if a car can have 3 carburetors. "yes" he said.

another was in my newspaper route that was just like this one on ebay. blue on blue. sitting in a backyard. stared it down everytime I went by.

then in high school a friend had a red 4 speed one. loved that car.

and I remember a magazine where Nunzi was modifying the engine on a 66 and testing it.

In the early 1990s I bought a rusty red with black interior close ratio 4 speed, original 3.90 rear one. had a 400 in it. ran and drove great. easily restorable but as a young family man I just never was able to complete it so I sold it. I paid $1,500 for it, sold it for $3,000.

oops yet another Pontiac ramble.

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That is interesting.

Maybe get the PHS and see if it's a Ram Air car.

Stranger things have happened: https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...hlight=ram+air

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Were there any auto ram air cars produced?

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Had the seller send me more pictures. revealed what already suspected in that all primer areas, and a few others need extensive work. but honestly the metal replacement is no big deal to me. thats to be expected but not in the price range hes asking.

he dropped it to 20 now but i'm a buyer at 7 or 8 so didnt wanna offer and bug the fella.

could you get a hood tach in 1966? its cut very cleanly for one as though from factory.

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could you get a hood tach in 1966? its cut very cleanly for one as though from factory.
To my knowledge, the hood tach was not available until 1967. It's my assumption that this car used to be someone's hotrod, and they cut the hood for the tach and for ram air. It has exhaust cutouts and Flowmaster mufflers, so that aligns with having been a hopped up car at a previous time in its life. I cut the underside of my hood for ram air as well. Didn't do the hood tach, though.

The seller is going to be sitting on that thing forever unless they get realistic with pricing. The market for muscle cars is not particularly strong right now.

Coincidentally, this car has the same build date of 06B as my '66, built at the same factory. Perhaps they were neighbors rolling down the assembly line together.

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