[77 TRASHCAN]

Yeah, daily driven is such an uncommon thing these days. I drive my T/A on occasion, usually get thumbs up from someone, even though it's in less than great condition, most folks recognize THAT car.

Is Tenney's car one of Jim Wanger's 421 powered, press cars? I asked question here, years ago if any were still in existence, someone commented, yes.

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

1970 Formula = 7,708
> L78/M40 = 4,638
> L78/M20 = 1,637
> L78/M21 = 458
> L78/M13 = 286
> L74/M40 = 293
> L74/M20 = 192
> L74/M21 = 189
> L74/M13 = 15

This ^ ^ ^ is what the Mopar people do. Eventually, when you split the hair down to exterior color, interior color, combinations of the interior and exterior colors, wheel options, vinyl top and perhaps time of day it was built...... You end up with a lot of 1of 1's just like the Mopar people.

Sorry man, its a '70 Formula, and production figure is 7708

[Teej]

I drive my 1958, 9 passenger Chieftain wagon daily. (No second, modern car) Since I've gotten it running I've put about 60K on it. (Rare and desirable or valuable not necessarily the same thing...)

Put together a weighting factor. Miles driven street driven divided by the number of factory produced versions. Or something like that. In my case that would be about 60K/5417.(9 pass wagons) Who can beat an 11?

[grandam1979]

How about a 68 ram air II GTO not mine but i have street driven it a few times and races it at the pure stock drags last year. The part the scared me the most was breaking the rear end 8.2 with a 4.33 stock. It went 13.13 on red lines.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by 77 TRASHCAN

Is Tenney's car one of Jim Wanger's 421 powered, press cars? I asked question here, years ago if any were still in existence, someone commented, yes.

Yes - there was a red one and a blue one.

Tenney has the red one.

K

[unruhjonny]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

This ^ ^ ^ is what the Mopar people do. Eventually, when you split the hair down to exterior color, interior color, combinations of the interior and exterior colors, wheel options, vinyl top and perhaps time of day it was built...... You end up with a lot of 1of 1's just like the Mopar people.

Sorry man, its a '70 Formula, and production figure is 7708

I'm pretty sure every single "rare" Mopar I've seen has on their sign a call out as to what makes their car a 1 of 1 car... eg: factory installed tissue dispenser
lol

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

I'm pretty sure every single "rare" Mopar I've seen has on their sign a call out as to what makes their car a 1 of 1 car... eg: factory installed tissue dispenser
lol

LOL! You get my drift.

"factory installed tissue dispenser"

[JLMounce]

I've never really been concerned with rarity. I don't buy cars I don't want to drive and I certainly didn't build my bird not to drive it. It's just a 350 HO car, nothing special. While I don't daily drive the car, I still have it out nearly weekly and put about 3000 miles on it per year.

[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by grandam1979

How about a 68 ram air II GTO not mine but i have street driven it a few times and races it at the pure stock drags last year. The part the scared me the most was breaking the rear end 8.2 with a 4.33 stock. It went 13.13 on red lines.

What air pressure did you use in the rear tires for that run? I will probably take mine out for a few passes later this year when I get it running. I am not too worried about the 4.33 gears since I am not expecting the redlines to have an abundance of grip....but then again, they do seem quite sticky?

Would be happy with low 13s...

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[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by PurelyGTO68

What air pressure did you use in the rear tires for that run?

Why correct date coded of course.

[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

Why correct date coded of course.

Sounds like something John Hutchinson from PurelyPMD would say. He would jokingly wish he had a tank of air from the late 60's so he could use NOS air to fill NOS tires.

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[Formulajones]

Originally Posted by Teej

I drive my 1958, 9 passenger Chieftain wagon daily. (No second, modern car)

That's what I considered a true car guy

[unruhjonny]

nice!

I guess I cannot be considered a "true car guy", because I flat out could not afford it.

I had said in years bygone that "I'd never own or drive a computerized car", but then I hit a period in my life where I was making about $300/week, and spending roughly $200/week on fuel just to get to and from work (I would do chores like groceries on my way home as to not do any "extra" driving)...
Being that broke changes you.

So now this 'reformed car guy' drives a little goofy yellow 'computerized' car that in bone stock form is capable of a 13.9e/t in the quarter mile, and regularly exceeds 30mpg on his daily commute...



Which, by the way, is actually rarer than many might think:

2009 SS (coupe) = 3,040
Black = (41U) 1,271
Imperial Blue Metallic = (37U) ??
Rally Yellow = (34U) 244
Silver Ice Metallic = (17U) ??
Sport Red Tintcoat = (29U) 285
Summit White = (50U) 203
Victory Red = (74U) 540

2009 SS (sedan) = 759
Black = (41U) 275
Imperial Blue Metallic = (37U) 55
Rally Yellow = (34U) 36
Silver Ice Metallic = (17U) 134
Sport Red Tintcoat = (29U) 115
Summit White = (50U) 64
Victory Red = (74U) 80

LINK

[Formulajones]

You don't have to be rich to drive a classic daily. Matter of fact we find it saves us money. We had new computerized cars we were driving but in the end it was my wife's idea to ditch that and start driving the classics that were just sitting here.

The new cars were outrageously expensive. $500 + for tags every year (EACH!!), $1,000+ for insurance, each. The only thing better was gas mileage, that was it, and it wasn't by much. Maintenance and tires were all way more expensive. Especially tires. Get into some of those stupid wheel sizes and prices quadruple.

In the end we spend a pinch more in gas, but we save every where else which more than makes up for the gas cost. With the right tuning they are actually very respectable. My 70 Formula knocks down 17 mpg highway pretty easy cruising at 70 mph, with a carburetor and no overdrive. The Z is doing nearly identical, with a well tuned 780 Holley and no overdrive.
That's good enough for us.

Smiles per mile are worth something as well. I sometimes look for excuses to go somewhere just so I can drive the car Besides, I'm not getting any younger, I'm going to enjoy the darn things while I'm still breathing.

[unruhjonny]

I hear what you're saying, and have no doubt, that for some people, you're probably totally correct.

My insurance WAS cheaper with the Firebird, but I also had less coverage...

I am these days driving probably at least 5x the mileage, and even with our stellar high gas prices, I am spending roughly 1/4 of the money on gas per week as what I was back when I daily drove my Firebird, decided to swallow my pride, and got a cheaper on gas car...

Tires are for sure cheaper on the Firebird...

If I had a short commute, I would honestly not be against driving a classic daily again... then again, I also am making substantially more per week than I was back in 2000/2001...

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by Formulajones

You don't have to be rich to drive a classic daily. Matter of fact we find it saves us money. We had new computerized cars we were driving but in the end it was my wife's idea to ditch that and start driving the classics that were just sitting here.

The new cars were outrageously expensive. $500 + for tags every year (EACH!!), $1,000+ for insurance, each. The only thing better was gas mileage, that was it, and it wasn't by much. Maintenance and tires were all way more expensive. Especially tires. Get into some of those stupid wheel sizes and prices quadruple.

In the end we spend a pinch more in gas, but we save every where else which more than makes up for the gas cost. With the right tuning they are actually very respectable. My 70 Formula knocks down 17 mpg highway pretty easy cruising at 70 mph, with a carburetor and no overdrive. The Z is doing nearly identical, with a well tuned 780 Holley and no overdrive.
That's good enough for us.

Smiles per mile are worth something as well. I sometimes look for excuses to go somewhere just so I can drive the car Besides, I'm not getting any younger, I'm going to enjoy the darn things while I'm still breathing.

Okay, but what does all this have to do with the title of this thread?

[coonhunter70]

Steve Barcak drives his 72 455 HO car everywhere, he has to be the winner in this category!

[grandam1979]

Rear tires had 25psi on all runs.

[Lee]

CammerJeff has a Mallett Solstice, which is quite rare.

[Formulas]

I have 1 of only 2104 1970 Esprit Firebirds built with a 350 2bbl 4-speed and its rarely driven on the street....
I would be willing to bet not to many left
Oddly enough i still have original heads block trans and rear end