[65Mark]

Several companies make a set of sockets like this.

http://www.amazon.com/Neiko-Impact-P.../dp/B000I0B1P0

[Jake64]

Originally Posted by bill ryder

Correct 10-12 5/8. Hardware store had 100's of them. Personally, mine LOOKED better, but this IS what the book showed. Thanks for the help!! Solved another problem. I've been trying to figure out hoe to put on NOS lud nuts without marring the hex. Years ago a GTOAA judge docked me for worn lug nuts, and I had just put them on for the show. Anyhow, today I wrapped each lug nut with silicone tapr, 2 layers and it would still fit in the socket, and torqued to 60 #'s, not 100. Came out great. Maybe someone has a better way???? See you'se very soon!!!! "Bill"!

Bill,
Are you sure it was the GTOAA and not POCI? I have never seen the GTOAA ask an owner for the removal of a wheel cover. Either way, looks like you got one tough judge. Something you said?!

[bill ryder]

I have the spinner caps and you can see everything thru the slots. I don't think I said anything. I'm pretty good at keeping my tougue in cheek, so to speak!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poverty cap, you would be correct. "Bill"!

[bill ryder]

Getting about ready to load for the trip. Been rubbing so long, my finger prints are about gone.
Couple more pics. Found Dill valve stems and caps on Ebay, lug nuts too.
If you are showing, don't forget the rear frame drains, one on each side. GTOAA feels for them like they do the door drains. Very easy to overlook.
Hope to see and meet a lot of people from the forum. PLEASE stop by and say HI!!!!!
See you in Dayton. TIC TOC TIC TOC!! "Bill"!

[62 bv]

look forward to meet you and tacking a lot of picks and have a lot of questions thanks brody

[ron cozzo]

Looks super bill. Is that red tape or red paint on your throttle cable? I'm so intimate with mine now I may decorate it. See you next week!

[bill ryder]

I used 3/8 red material like the stickers are made from on chassis springs. "Bill"!

[ron cozzo]

Originally Posted by bill ryder

If you are showing, don't forget the rear frame drains, one on each side. GTOAA feels for them like they do the door drains.

bill, you mean the rectangular drains at the rear of the inner rocker?

[bill ryder]

Hi Ron, Yes Right behind the end of your rocker molding. Should have a rubber rectangular cap (dust cover) over it, about 1X2". One on each side. See you soon.. "Bill"!

[Jake64]

Sorry for the delay, the same camera operator issues. I just hope one of the pictures of the clips comes out. As I stated, I doubt anyone will take note.

The yellow at the clip and below the fender in the second picture is the yellow stripe found on the hose. Fortunately for me, the factory worker positioned the hose in just such a way that the judges can see it. The third picture is the second clip just behind the hinge and ahead of the fire wall.

[bill ryder]

Well, I'm here. Seems kinda spread out, but that is just me. I'll get a better lay of the land tomorrow. Cinci. is a bear to pull thru. Way to any hills!! Think I'll go home thru Indy.
Where are you Gto Ron?... "Bill"!

[bill ryder]

Hurray for swapping. Found an NOS set of splitters and lh NOS hanger. Guess now I need the rh hanger. Anyone got an extra.
Weather today really scarey. Several outside cars damaged. "Bill"!

[bill ryder]

Need some help. Anyone with a "63 or "64 MPC, what is the pt. # for the tri fold clutch rod boot (bellows)?? GR. 0.854??? THANKS MUCH "Bill"!

[War eagle]

9776826 But I am not real sure that is the 3 fold bellows. My May KC has the 3 folds but another original built fremont 4D is a very original 2 fold.

[John V.]

Pretty certain 9776826 was the "2nd design" boot.

There were 2 threads on this topic in 2009.

Here's one of them, Prairierust posted good p/n info.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=616862

I found a guy who would try to repro the 1st design boot but I was never able to obtain a good boot for him to study.

Bill, I don't recall the entire discussion, but you may also need to have the early retainer if you use the early boot.

[War eagle]

I agree John. That prairierust was sure a great numbers man. Up there with Clark Kent, Lois Lane and Lassie. However my Prts Cat is revised for the bellows page, 3-1-64. The late use of the 3 tier bellows probably is the using up of old stock and very much related to the Plant. You would expect KC to be building more SM clutch units and use more bellows given the products built at the facility. Buick skylark chevelle gto and chevelle truck(el camino) Chances are they originally stocked more and then depletion was later in the year.

[bill ryder]

What about 539632?? That is T-4, T-8, S.T. 61-63. Seems the boot was used in '63 also, or maybe farther back. "Bill"!

[8LUG]

http://www.oldsmobility.com/mpc/group0000/007.htm

[8LUG]

http://www.jegs.com/i/Metro-Moulded-...P31-C/10002/-1

[John V.]

Originally Posted by bill ryder

What about 539632?? That is T-4, T-8, S.T. 61-63. Seems the boot was used in '63 also, or maybe farther back. "Bill"!

Bill, certainly a possibility.

The matching retainer would be p/n 539855.

However, the Illustration for the '61-'63 Tempest Bellows seal shows each of the 3 "folds" to be decreasing in dia.

The '64 Tempest Bellows is illustrated as having 3 equal dia. folds.

My own early '64 Bellows matches to the illustration, 3 equal dia. folds.

The illustrations are usually pretty accurate representations of actual parts.

There is no way for me to know if the '61-'63 illustration depicts the '63 bellows or perhaps the '61 bellows if there was a p/n change. Any change year to year would not be accurately illustrated if the illustration was originally specific to the 1st year of the run.

I hope I am making that clear.

Bottom line, if p/n 539632 has 3 folds of decreasing dia., then that is not the right piece.

Whether the early seal was p/n 384239 (retainer 384240) as Prairierust found from Chevelle stuff or p/n 383752 (retainer 383753) as 8LUG found from the Olds site or neither, I don't have any way to know.

I think the Metro piece was discussed earlier, it is not correct at all and doesn't fit the early retainer from what I recall being told.

Did you check out the pic of the early '64 bellows in the earlier thread? The nipple at the end is torn (mine is torn off), but the 3 equal dia. folds are clear.

I'd also love to discover the original early '64 bellows p/n. But I suspect having a repro made from a reasonably complete original may be the best course for those of us wanting the early '64 bellows.