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04-20-2020, 03:08 PM
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Transmission Identification
I have a reference to 1968 transmissions with the numbers 9785186, 9793092, 9783199, 9793093. Anyone know what these are and where to find a resource with the info? I'm at a loss....thank you.
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#2
04-23-2020, 04:17 PM
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Those pn’s are not the numbers for transmission assemblies. The 68 TH400 pn’s were 8626xxx
PC is 105 PH is 135 PY is 335 PT is 155 PQ is 245 PA is 425 PB is 095 PD is 115 PG is 125
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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#3
04-23-2020, 04:28 PM
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I mistakenly thought you mentioned automatic.
Standard (GTO) three speed in 68 used pn. 9793425 M20 was 9793329 and M21 was 9793330
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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#4
04-23-2020, 04:50 PM
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I looked up your mentioned pn’s in my dec 68 price list and
9785186 is group 4.003, list price of $175.00 9793092-3 is group 4.003, list price of $168.00 9783199, is group 4.003, list price of $175.00 Group 4.003 is transmission assemblies but the same group code applies to all kinds of trannies. 9793092-3 are Saginaw three speeds with 2.85 1st gear (6cyl applications) for Tempests. First one is column shift, second one is floor shift. Can’t find the other two but the price indicates that they are also 3 spd manuals since 4spds were $300-350 and automatic even more. I did find a close one, 9785187 which is a 66-67 Tempest 3spd Saginaw manual column shift for 2bbl V8 applications.
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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#5
04-23-2020, 06:05 PM
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nice diggin .... North ....
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#6
04-23-2020, 06:37 PM
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Just to clarify the Price List book just lists pn’s in numerical order with group code and price but no name, description or application info.
The Master Parts Catalog has pn’s sorted by group code with name, description and application info and sometimes prices. So the 4 pn’s you initially posted were all cataloged parts in 69 but I can’t find the two in the MPC. The group code indicates they are transmission assemblies and the price indicates three speed manual of some sort.
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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#7
04-25-2020, 01:33 AM
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OK, thanks to all.
These numbers were in GM Heritage Center numbers I was compiling. When I get the chance, I'll relook at the statistics....except among 150 pages or so, I don't know what page number I should be seeking. :-/ |
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#8
04-25-2020, 07:42 AM
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I had about same results as North.
No #9785186 but had 9785187: 66-67 T/8 3spd 9783199: 66-67 T/6 3 spd 9793092: 68-69 T/6 3 spd (Saginaw) 9793093: 68-69 T/6 3 spd (Saginaw) Don't know the application for them other than Tempest and whether for 6 cylinder or 8 cylinder.
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