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Old 08-07-2018, 10:32 PM
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like to compare the font on a block of a car i want to buy . the 1 looks like a 7

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Old 08-07-2018, 11:00 PM
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Here is a 71 Formula 400 vin on block. Calif car. The "2" designates Pontiac, the "1" is 1971, the L for LA.. then numbers
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:09 PM
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Here is a 71 Formula 400 vin on block. Calif car. The "2" designates Pontiac, the "1" is 1971, the L for LA.. then numbers
can i send you mine by email not sure how to post photo

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Old 08-07-2018, 11:15 PM
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can i send u my photo by email not sure how to add photo

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Old 08-08-2018, 03:14 AM
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yup , rufflife@metrocast.net . no spam please..

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Old 08-08-2018, 11:11 AM
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like to compare the font on a block of a car i want to buy . the 1 looks like a 7
I’ve seen that several times

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Old 08-08-2018, 12:13 PM
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2 = Pontiac
1 = 1971
L = Van Nuys
(six digit) = cars final six vin charecters

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Old 08-08-2018, 12:37 PM
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Looks like its been milled .. and I have seen a 7 used for a 1 where many 1's were needed, but this one looks a bit too odd.
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Old 08-08-2018, 01:51 PM
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thanks Bruce has anyone else seen 7,s used for ones

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Old 08-08-2018, 04:02 PM
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Sometimes the VIN numbers are nearly impossible to read.

I have a 1971 YE 455HO block that is ultra low miles, and the VIN is impossible to read. A friend of mine worked as a mechanic at a Pontiac dealership in Charlotte NC. Whenever a car with a 4-bolt main block came in for warranty replacement, he grabbed the block and saved it. This block probably has less than 12K miles on it when the block was replaced under warranty. It has been on a shelf since about 1984, so I am pretty sure nobody ever milled it.

I think the VINs were hand stamped. I have seen a couple that were stamped heavier at the top than the bottom, and vice versa. I even had one 455HO block that was stamped YE, but had absolutely no VIN stamped into the block anywhere.

The block in the photo was greased and wrapped in plastic. I tore enough of the plastic away to reveal the VIN and engine code.

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That surface on every Pontiac is a machined surface. Here are the stamping on my 70
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Old 08-08-2018, 04:42 PM
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like to compare the font on a block of a car i want to buy . the 1 looks like a 7
What is the car?

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Old 08-08-2018, 05:07 PM
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my 1970-YZ engine has the vin stamped twice;
once is a weak half stamped one, the second is further from the timing chain housing, and is much easier to read.

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Old 08-08-2018, 05:38 PM
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like to compare the font on a block of a car i want to buy . the 1 looks like a 7
The block your wanting to buy, what assembly plant of car was it originally installed in?

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Old 08-08-2018, 06:26 PM
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That surface on every Pontiac is a machined surface. Here are the stamping on my 70
thanks norwood this 1 looks like a 1 what is your opinion on the block i am showing the car is supposed to be a 1971 formula 455 auto

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What is the car?
1971 formula 455 auto

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Old 08-08-2018, 06:34 PM
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Sometimes the VIN numbers are nearly impossible to read.

I have a 1971 YE 455HO block that is ultra low miles, and the VIN is impossible to read. A friend of mine worked as a mechanic at a Pontiac dealership in Charlotte NC. Whenever a car with a 4-bolt main block came in for warranty replacement, he grabbed the block and saved it. This block probably has less than 12K miles on it when the block was replaced under warranty. It has been on a shelf since about 1984, so I am pretty sure nobody ever milled it.

I think the VINs were hand stamped. I have seen a couple that were stamped heavier at the top than the bottom, and vice versa. I even had one 455HO block that was stamped YE, but had absolutely no VIN stamped into the block anywhere.

The block in the photo was greased and wrapped in plastic. I tore enough of the plastic away to reveal the VIN and engine code.

Mike
your 1 looks like a 1

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Old 08-08-2018, 06:59 PM
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What I've seen is the stamp that's to be a I has a curve on it like the seven? But, it's not a complete 7.

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Old 08-08-2018, 07:39 PM
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Is it the Lucerne Blue 1971 Formula that was originally from NC?

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Old 08-08-2018, 08:30 PM
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That surface on every Pontiac is a machined surface. Here are the stamping on my 70
Craig, your machining all goes in one direction. That was my curiosity on the OP's Block number area. His has more than one milling machine marking

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