[fyrffytr1]

On a 67 GTO convertible with factory A/C what color is the windshield? Clear with shading at the top or green tint with shading at the top? The rest of the glass is green tinted. Thanks for any and all help.

[400 4spd.]

Green with shaded upper section is correct for an A/C car, optional without A/C. Side glass was always tinted with A/C.

[60sstuff]

What 400 4spd. said.

Green tint all around. Darker shade at top of windshield.

My non-air car was ordered with (Glass-Soft Ray-All windows) @ $30.32.

Chris

[gtospieg]

400 4speed...my 67 AC car does not have tinted glass and I believe all the side window glass is original. I wish I had replaced it with the tinted glass when I built the car.

[fyrffytr1]

I know my convertible had green tinted side glass but the windshield that was in it when I purchased the car was clear with top shading.

[400 4spd.]

Phil, I've heard of clear glass cars coming with a tinted/shaded windshield option, but not the opposite.
gtospieg, that is interesting. If my understanding of tint vs. clear use is true, I wonder if it (tinted) was a delete item on yours. Do you PHS papers for it? Never say never, I guess.

My non-ac car came with clear, but I'll be going back with tinted.

[geeteeohguy]

Originally Posted by 400 4spd.

Phil, I've heard of clear glass cars coming with a tinted/shaded windshield option, but not the opposite.
gtospieg, that is interesting. If my understanding of tint vs. clear use is true, I wonder if it (tinted) was a delete item on yours. Do you PHS papers for it? Never say never, I guess.

My non-ac car came with clear, but I'll be going back with tinted.

This^^^. Both my '67 and '65 GTO's came with Soft Ray for the windhields, clear for the other glass. I changed the '65 to all soft ray 35+ years ago for $50. These cars just plain look better with soft ray in all windows, IMO. Most AC cars got the soft ray all around...have never seen one without. If your windshield is clear, it was probably replaced at one time, very common. All original soft ray windshields are green tint with heavier tint along the upper edge to varying degrees.

[fyrffytr1]

Well, looks like I was wrong about the glass that came out of my car. It is green tinted so that is what I will go back with. In case you are wondering why I am ordering a new windshield for my restored car, it is because I broke the one in it trying to remove the trim. I was down to the last clip at the top when the glass popped! In case you are wondering why I was removing the trim it was because I scratched the rear fender! In case you are wondering what the rear fender has to do with it, it is because when I took the car to the body shop I asked them about fixing a small blemish on the lower windshield panel while they had it to repair the scratch. They said that, at the least, the trim would have to come off and they were pretty sure the glass would have to come out as well. Below is a picture of the glass that was in the car when I got it back around 2005. So, if there are no more questions I will finish this post and get off here for a while!

[ZeGermanHam]

Originally Posted by fyrffytr1

Well, looks like I was wrong about the glass that came out of my car. It is green tinted so that is what I will go back with. In case you are wondering why I am ordering a new windshield for my restored car, it is because I broke the one in it trying to remove the trim. I was down to the last clip at the top when the glass popped! In case you are wondering why I was removing the trim it was because I scratched the rear fender! In case you are wondering what the rear fender has to do with it, it is because when I took the car to the body shop I asked them about fixing a small blemish on the lower windshield panel while they had it to repair the scratch. They said that, at the least, the trim would have to come off and they were pretty sure the glass would have to come out as well. So, if there are no more questions I will finish this post and get off here for a while!

Oh brother, that's painful! But we've all been there at one point, or will be.

I also cracked my windshield at the last corner when trying to remove it. In my case, I blame the car's previous owner and a poor rust repair that prevented the wire from cutting how it needed to. Still a bitter pill to swallow.

[400 4spd.]

So instead of cutting the glass out in a reasonable manner, they decided it needed to be shattered to oblivion in the process? Did they tape off the defrost ducts and speaker grill before they turned it into dust? How about the carpet and seats?
That windshield tells me a ham-fisted moron removed it.

[fyrffytr1]

Originally Posted by 400 4spd.

So instead of cutting the glass out in a reasonable manner, they decided it needed to be shattered to oblivion in the process? Did they tape off the defrost ducts and speaker grill before they turned it into dust? How about the carpet and seats?
That windshield tells me a ham-fisted moron removed it.

I know that ham-fisted moron well! The windshield pictured above was removed by yours truly back around 2005.. It was delaminating so I didn't take care in removing it.
I also cracked the replacement when I was removing the trim molding Friday evening. I am removing all the trim in my shop before I take the car to the paint and body shop Monday. That way I can clean and buff it while the car is being repaired.

[400 4spd.]

Originally Posted by fyrffytr1

I know that ham-fisted moron well! The windshield pictured above was removed by yours truly back around 2005..

I've seen glass shop employees do the same thing, but they have the proper cutting tools. When I saw that picture I just imagined shards of glass all over your nice paint job!

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by gtospieg

...my 67 AC car does not have tinted glass and I believe all the side window glass is original. I wish I had replaced it with the tinted glass when I built the car.

For a long time i thought Soft-Ray and A/C went hand in hand as perhaps a required option on A/C equipped cars of our vintage.
But it wasn't that way.
It was highly recommended , and most all dealer ordered and zone ordered A/C cars did get it.

Since the time i started getting more involved in Billing History Cards and Invoices from PHS, have seen about 4 or 5 A/C cars without Soft-Ray.
1 or 2 of them didn't even have a tinted windshield.

Would be hard to find those files now though, because i don't think i made a special notation about their glass on their file names.

[Jeff Hamlin]

My 66 AC equipped LeMans is one of those that did not come with any SR glass.
I later added a replacement windshielsd with a Sunshade top.

[Longs]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

For a long time i thought Soft-Ray and A/C went hand in hand as perhaps a required option on A/C equipped cars of our vintage.
But it wasn't that way.
It was highly recommended , and most all dealer ordered and zone ordered A/C cars did get it.

Since the time i started getting more involved in Billing History Cards and Invoices from PHS, have seen about 4 or 5 A/C cars without Soft-Ray.
1 or 2 of them didn't even have a tinted windshield.

Would be hard to find those files now though, because i don't think i made a special notation about their glass on their file names.

I wasn't sure whether you were talking convertibles only, but my '67 hardtop factory A/C car doesn't have tinted or soft-ray glass. I've owned it since 1981, PHS documentation confirms.

[242177P]

A little trivia. Pontiac actually favored windshield-only SoftRay glass for press vehicles.
Clear side glass must have aided photography enough to warrant the consideration?
Dunno. Just something I ran across before, and actually managed to remember.

[400 4spd.]

I own a 67 Corvette convertible with a/c and tinted glass. I have the tank sticker and a copy of the dealer window sticker, and it shows the Tinted Glass option as costing $15.80. A/C was $412.90. So I'm guessing tinted glass was a minimal extra cost item on GM cars regardless of a/c.

[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by 242177P

A little trivia. Pontiac actually favored windshield-only SoftRay glass for press vehicles.
Clear side glass must have aided photography enough to warrant the consideration?
Dunno. Just something I ran across before, and actually managed to remember.

I've heard that also. It was told to me by someone that observed that my '74 TA had no tinted glass anywhere and not even the upper band on the windshield was tinted. It was a low option car, 455 with AM/FM, PS and PB only...Those last three may have been standard..Not up on that kind of trivia.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by 400 4spd.

I own a 67 Corvette convertible with a/c and tinted glass. I have the tank sticker and a copy of the dealer window sticker, and it shows the Tinted Glass option as costing $15.80. A/C was $412.90. So I'm guessing tinted glass was a minimal extra cost item on GM cars regardless of a/c.

That VetteVert only had 3 pieces of glass (not counting the body - haha)
is why it was so cheap.
67 GTO it was about a $32 option

Years ago i was of mindset that Soft-Ray was like a required option when A/C was ordered. And others also shared that mindset, Soft-Ray was just that predominant with A/C cars of the vintage.

Here are 2 of the examples of 67 GTO's with A/C, no Soft-Ray ALL , not even so much as a Tinted Windshield .

Soft-Ray does dress up these old cars real nicely
I like it in all of them

[60sstuff]

I’d say there are 5 pieces of glass that would be tinted on a drop top.

The optional hardtop may have also had a tinted back glass on an air condition car.

Chris