[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Jim Robertson

Stan,
I noticed you did not have my best timeslip on your new list. See attached.

Jim,
Thank you for the information. I have updated the list.

Stan

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

There is a pump gas list.
http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_gas.htm

Stan

Sorry I was not more clear. What I am asking about pump gas with PMD block and heads ? Iron heads would keep the static CR 10-1 or less in most engines.
Opeliac has a impressive car. Not familiar with "191" heads. Are they 197 ? 191 a typo ?
If not, what are the heads what was the CR of that engine ?

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Sorry I was not more clear. What I am asking about pump gas with PMD block and heads ? Iron heads would keep the static CR 10-1 or less in most engines.
Opeliac has a impressive car. Not familiar with "191" heads. Are they 197 ? 191 a typo ?
If not, what are the heads what was the CR of that engine ?

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Please note that the same combination can be listed on more that one list. A combination that is both pump gas and has PMD heads and block will have 2 red vertical rules in that list's last column.

Stan

That is all I have for Opeliac. He is a member here. Maybe if you PM him he will give you the information you are looking for.

Stan

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

That is all I have for Opeliac. He is a member here. Maybe if you PM him he will give you the information you are looking for.

Stan

Can you split up the pump gas list, NA with PMD heads and block ?

[taff2]

I was just kidding Stan, my home brewed octane booster (Toluene based) makes genuine race quality fuel - C12, C16 etc. We sell it for race use/fast road/motocross bikes etc.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Please note that the same combination can be listed on more that one list. A combination that is both pump gas and has PMD heads and block will have 2 red vertical rules in that list's last column.

Stan

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Can you split up the pump gas list, NA with PMD heads and block ?

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Stan

[slowbird]

Here is my dad's combo from 1995
1965 GTO 3720lbs
462ci
197 HO heads
65 tri-power
455SD rods
TRW pistons
H-O racing HC-04 hyd cam
Best of 7.07@96 in 1/8, 11.07@119 in 1/4. Run was in July in midwest so air was crap im sure.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Here is my dad's combo from 1995
1965 GTO 3720lbs
462ci
197 HO heads
65 tri-power
455SD rods
TRW pistons
H-O racing HC-04 hyd cam
Best of 7.07@96 in 1/8, 11.07@119 in 1/4. Run was in July in midwest so air was crap im sure.

Brian,
Thank you for the information. I have added it to the list. Is this car / engine or you '73 Ventura I have on the list run on pump gas?

Stan

[455dude]

1970 Firebird built in 1997.
3200 lbs. without driver
back-halved with ladder bars and single adj koni coilovers
29.5 x 11.5 slicks
12 bolt with 4.56 gears
400 ci engine, .065 over, 3.79 offset ground stock crank, 10:1 comp.
6.8" bbc alum rods
#62 heads ported by Dave Bisschop, 270 ish cfm @28"
solid roller cam 276/283 @ .050, .620 lift
1150 dominator carb with Victor intake and 2" spacer
TH400 trans brake trans, 8.5" converter
best time: 10.51 @ 126.5 mph, launch at 3000, shifting at 6000 rpm
1.41 60ft.
dynoed at 608hp @6700 at flywheel
there is more left in it, but it is over 23 years old now, and I don't want to break it. Getting ready to pull it and freshen it up for next year

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by 455dude

1970 Firebird built in 1997.
3200 lbs. without driver
back-halved with ladder bars and single adj koni coilovers
29.5 x 11.5 slicks
12 bolt with 4.56 gears
400 ci engine, .065 over, 3.79 offset ground stock crank, 10:1 comp.
6.8" bbc alum rods
#62 heads ported by Dave Bisschop, 270 ish cfm @28"
solid roller cam 276/283 @ .050, .620 lift
1150 dominator carb with Victor intake and 2" spacer
TH400 trans brake trans, 8.5" converter
best time: 10.51 @ 126.5 mph, launch at 3000, shifting at 6000 rpm
1.41 60ft.
dynoed at 608hp @6700 at flywheel
there is more left in it, but it is over 23 years old now, and I don't want to break it. Getting ready to pull it and freshen it up for next year

Thank you for the information. To calculate HP I need to know weight with driver. Also at 10 CR is this a pump gas engine?

Thanks.
Stan

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Brian,
Thank you for the information. I have added it to the list. Is this car / engine or you '73 Ventura I have on the list run on pump gas?

Stan

The Ventura yes, its driven everywhere never seen a trailer.
The GTO could have ran on pump gas back then Cam2 was cheap so that's what we ran.

[455dude]

Driver weight..... err... 255lbs. But hey, I'm 6'-6"! Yes, I run Cali 91 octane in it. My guess would be that it is making around 525 -550 ish hp in it's current state.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by slowbird

The Ventura yes, its driven everywhere never seen a trailer.
The GTO could have ran on pump gas back then Cam2 was cheap so that's what we ran.

Brian,
Thank you. The cars are on both the PMD and Pump Gas lists.

Stan

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by 455dude

Driver weight..... err... 255lbs. But hey, I'm 6'-6"! Yes, I run Cali 91 octane in it. My guess would be that it is making around 525 -550 ish hp in it's current state.

Thank you I get 564.5 HP. The car is on both the PMD and Pump Gas lists.

Stan

[Jim Robertson]

Stan,
Another reasonably successful OEM block and head combination we put together for Milt Milton's 1966 Bonneville
1973 455 block, .040” over, block filled to water holes, lifter boss reinforced, JE flat top pistons gas ported, .043"/.043"/3mm ring pack, Eagle forged 4.250” crank, 6.800” Eagle rods, #48 heads race ported, 2.11”/1.77” valves, Scorpion 1.65:1 stud mount rockers, Isky solid flat tappet cam 270/280 @ .050” dura, .680” lift, 12.6:1 compression, ported Victor, 950 HP Holley, 1” spacer, Canton deep oil pan, 1-7/8” Doug’s headers, 3.5” collectors with 18” extensions, 8” Munsinger convertor, Original TH400, Original ’66 rear end housing/axles w/3.23 gear (Duerst gears), 29” slicks.
Engine dyno’d at 771 HP
4500 lbs race weight (yes it weighs 2.25 tons)
Best 10.86 at 125.8 mph at 3185’ Density altitude

Seem like a good heavy car/small carb/solid flat tappet combo to add to your list.
Jim

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Jim Robertson

Stan,
Another reasonably successful OEM block and head combination we put together for Milt Milton's 1966 Bonneville
1973 455 block, .040” over, block filled to water holes, lifter boss reinforced, JE flat top pistons gas ported, .043"/.043"/3mm ring pack, Eagle forged 4.250” crank, 6.800” Eagle rods, #48 heads race ported, 2.11”/1.77” valves, Scorpion 1.65:1 stud mount rockers, Isky solid flat tappet cam 270/280 @ .050” dura, .680” lift, 12.6:1 compression, ported Victor, 950 HP Holley, 1” spacer, Canton deep oil pan, 1-7/8” Doug’s headers, 3.5” collectors with 18” extensions, 8” Munsinger convertor, Original TH400, Original ’66 rear end housing/axles w/3.23 gear (Duerst gears), 29” slicks.
Engine dyno’d at 771 HP
4500 lbs race weight (yes it weighs 2.25 tons)
Best 10.86 at 125.8 mph at 3185’ Density altitude

Seem like a good heavy car/small carb/solid flat tappet combo to add to your list.
Jim

You had to show up with THAT 48 headed monster. I was waiting for it.
OK, you win.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Jim Robertson

Stan,
Another reasonably successful OEM block and head combination we put together for Milt Milton's 1966 Bonneville
1973 455 block, .040” over, block filled to water holes, lifter boss reinforced, JE flat top pistons gas ported, .043"/.043"/3mm ring pack, Eagle forged 4.250” crank, 6.800” Eagle rods, #48 heads race ported, 2.11”/1.77” valves, Scorpion 1.65:1 stud mount rockers, Isky solid flat tappet cam 270/280 @ .050” dura, .680” lift, 12.6:1 compression, ported Victor, 950 HP Holley, 1” spacer, Canton deep oil pan, 1-7/8” Doug’s headers, 3.5” collectors with 18” extensions, 8” Munsinger convertor, Original TH400, Original ’66 rear end housing/axles w/3.23 gear (Duerst gears), 29” slicks.
Engine dyno’d at 771 HP
4500 lbs race weight (yes it weighs 2.25 tons)
Best 10.86 at 125.8 mph at 3185’ Density altitude

Seem like a good heavy car/small carb/solid flat tappet combo to add to your list.
Jim

Jim,
Thank you.

Stan

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

You had to show up with THAT 48 headed monster. I was waiting for it.
OK, you win.

If you had looked at the list you would have seen that Jim was already on there with his 48 headed monster.

Stan

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

If you had looked at the list you would have seen that Jim was already on there with his 48 headed monster.

Stan

You must think people hang on you hijacked lists every word. Many don't. Plenty of guys don't want their cars to be part of it.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

You must think people hang on you hijacked lists every word. Many don't. Plenty of guys don't want their cars to be part of it.

So just where did I hijack this list from? THE PMD list is the result of a PM from someone here who ask me to do it.

But like normal you know nothing, but act like you know everything.

Stan