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The car in that video is an extreme prototype so Ford can see what might be possible. 1400 hp, 800 volt batteries, 7 motors. 3 cooling systems etc. It is super extreme but it does sound great. Never expected an electric motor to make a sound like that. Awesome! It is only matter of time before people start hot rodding their EVs. |
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Our neighbours ' Ze Djurmanz ' , not so much tough. I can't help but see those magnetic highways in our future to. People would still be thrilled to see one off those GTO dinosaurs loudly on it's way to whatever . . . ! |
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@1965gp
Stumbled across this video which did a great job at quantifying the possibility of what solar panels on a car would provide and the challenges of movement / angle that are constantly changing. Nicely done; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebk_vPIUbR8
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My colleague of many years ordered a Mach E when they first began taking orders. He ordered a GT with the only option at the time being a color choice. They just sent him the advanced 35 page product info booklet in an e-mail. Really interesting. I caught the three sound modes. One thing that stood out to me as a thing to work on in the future. It clearly states that the 110V charging option gives you 3 miles of range per hour of charge? So after charging all night say at a motel during a trip, you gain 30 miles of range. If you have 220V or super Charger in your route no problem. But if your stuck with 110V, you are really stuck. Plan longer trips carefully. Just have to be willing to be tethered to your power source.
Info from Ford: FORD MOBILE CHARGER COMES STANDARDThe portable charge cord that comes standard with every Mustang Mach-E can be plugged into a 120-volt household-style outlet or a dedicated 240-volt outlet, which is recommended for faster charging. It has a 20-foot cable, outlet adapters and carrying bag as well as a dedicated storage area under the cargo load floor.MANY WAYS TO CHARGEDid You Know?Typically, EV owners charge their vehicles at home about 80 percent of the time.1Range and charge time based on manufacturer computer engineering simulations and EPA-estimated range calculation methodology. The charging rate decreases as battery reaches full capacity. Your results may vary based on peak charging times and battery state of charge. Actual vehicle range varies with conditions such as external elements, driving behaviors, vehicle maintenance and lithium-ion battery age.Level 2 – 240V/32A dedicated household outlet (NEMA 15-50) can provide 21 miles of range per charging hour.1Level 1– 120V/12A conventional household outlet can provide 3 miles of range per charging hour Last edited by mgarblik; 08-01-2020 at 03:54 PM. |
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Interesting about the solar panels- thanks for the vid
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I am not sure, but what i've heard from a few owners is when the batteries are used up..the cars are worthless...the expense to replace them is very high...
they seem disposable..with no real plan to be recycled...and i dont think anyones put a solid plan together for the batteries to be recycled theres a whole new industry to repower gas power cars with tesla motors..it seems really cool, and i like what i have seen, its a 15k swap to put a tesla motor in a traditional powered old car, and people are doing it a lot..you can buy motors on ebay.. still..a Tesla will never park in my drive..i have no plans or wishes to buy one..i'll drive my dinosaur..
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110 is basically a charging method for someone that is only using the car as a relatively short drive commuter car. To be viable for the majority of the public, a 220 volt source for charging is required, but still not optimal. 480V DC charging is what is required for more reasonable charge times. |
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Gas powered cars are history in the medium term.
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Great info there haha
Very slow 2x faster than slow Much faster than slow Made me laugh but now I understand I suppose... |
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They have not revised the guidance for 500k cars this year. Battery cost declines are expected to be ~5% per year. Panasonic has already said 20% reduction over 5 years.
Time will tell.
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Doesn't hitting a battery with a fast high charge every time shorten battery life? What about our aging grids? Here in San Diego they hit us with high rates between 4-9 P.M. because they say there isn't enough renewable energy during this time. I guess if you didn't plug in your electric car until 9:01 P.M. it would be OK.
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Level 1 charges about 4 miles of range per hour. Really only useful for absolute worst case scenarios. Very rarely use this method Level 2 gains about 24 miles of range per hour which is 6 times faster than Level 1. The Mach E has an option to gain about 32 miles of range per hour which is 8 times faster. DC fast charge which some refer to as Level 3 is at least 6 times faster than level 2 and could have max speeds up to 15 times faster. For sake of comparison.....the Mach E can gain about 60 miles of range in 10 minutes with DC fast charge. |
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I'm in San Diego also, we have a great environment for solar.
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Elon says a lot of things.
He announced in September 2015 that the Model 3 would be unveiled in March of 2016. In May of 2016 Musk announced that he would produce 100,000 Model 3's in 2017 (produced less than 3,000) and 400,000 in 2018 (produced less than 165,000). He said the Model 3 would be a $35,000 car and took over 500,000 deposits of $1,000 each and then failed to deliver a $35,000 Model 3 in 2017 or 2018. You could buy a $40 - 70,000 Model 3, but he refused to build the $35,000 one he promised when he accepted $500,000,000 in deposits. It's 2020 and you still can't find the $35,000 Model 3 SR on the Tesla website, but apparently if you configure a SR Plus ($39,900) and pay a $100.00 order fee, there is a way to finangle your way through the system to the point where you have to stop the process and wait for Tesla to email you about completing your order. Then you need to STOP everything and reach out to a Tesla Store or showroom, provide the Tesla employee your VIN#, and request them to flag your Model 3 order to be a Standard Range model. This will take several DAYS. And then you can get your white (ONLY) Model 3 for $35,000, plus $1200 destination fee, plus $100 order fee for a total (before tax) of $36,300. If you want one, here are the detailed instructions here: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-mode...-buying-guide/ Norway has been the leader of the EV movement. It used to be a Tesla success story. The Norwegians are probably the most experienced and knowledgeable EV buyers on the planet. Tesla has sold 20,818 Model S's, 17,505 Model 3's and 13,388 Model X's in Norway - or over 50,000 Tesla's. Bit for 2020 YTD - sales for Tesla have cratered - only 87 Model S's, 1818 Model 3's and 213 Model X's - or just over 2100 total have been sold this year. As a reference point - Tesla sold over 5300 Model 3's in March of 2019 alone last year. Meanwhile, in 2020, Audi has sold 6428 of their E-trons, VW has sold 3992 of their Golfs, Nissan has sold 3363 of their Leafs and Hyundai has sold 2996 of their Konas. The Pandemic is everywhere, but people are still buying EV's in Norway, they just aren't buying Tesla's like they used to. |
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elon burns good...
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the water department needs to eat too...
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