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Old 12-23-2022, 04:14 PM
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helping out my buddy , he just bought a 73 trans am ,it is a project and he got a box full of wiring harnesses can some one help i.d these
i do not see the side marker connector on the headlight one

not sure what the other one is i think the seller just put a bunch of wiring in a box just to make the deal
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Old 12-23-2022, 08:47 PM
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I am having trouble figuring out your pictures;
Are all four pictures the same harness?
It looks like three of them have the same headlight sockets...



That is for sure the front light harness.

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Old 12-23-2022, 08:49 PM
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I am having trouble figuring out your pictures;
Are all four pictures the same harness?
It looks like three of them have the same headlight sockets...



That is for sure the front light harness.
no the 1 st 2 are a headlight harness , the last 2 maybe under dash

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Old 12-23-2022, 09:59 PM
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The lighting harness does Not look correct for 1973. It looks more like 70-early 72. Why? The front parking/ signal connector is for the older style set up with metal housings.
73 had a basic bulb socket on the harness that the 1157 went in, and it simply went in back of housing and quick twist, like a tail light bulb.

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All those harness are underwood. GM didn't use that plastic wire cover under dash....it was wrapped..

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The lighting harness does Not look correct for 1973. It looks more like 70-early 72. Why? The front parking/ signal connector is for the older style set up with metal housings.
73 had a basic bulb socket on the harness that the 1157 went in, and it simply went in back of housing and quick twist, like a tail light bulb.
thanks for this reply , i do not see any connector for the side marker lights . it does not look like it was ever altered

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Old 12-24-2022, 12:18 PM
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that corrugated cover wasn’t used by GM till well after the early 70’s cars were built;
I believe that the under dash looms were wrapped with a type of tape that lacked adhesive, and the under hood stuff was wrapped with a tape in spots, and used a vinyl sleeve in other spots.

Since the corrugated cover is there, I am guessing you would have to remove it to find the side marker lamp wires.

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that corrugated cover wasn’t used by GM till well after the early 70’s cars were built;
I believe that the under dash looms were wrapped with a type of tape that lacked adhesive, and the under hood stuff was wrapped with a tape in spots, and used a vinyl sleeve in other spots.

Since the corrugated cover is there, I am guessing you would have to remove it to find the side marker lamp wires.
yes thanks that was my next step

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Pictures of the connectors close up on the harnesses may help ID correctly. The 194 side marker bulb connector is usually white.

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Pictures of the connectors close up on the harnesses may help ID correctly. The 194 side marker bulb connector is usually white.
here you go .i do not see any cut wires .Did the 72 harness come with the outer casing
also showing the end connector see anything missing
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here you go .i do not see any cut wires .Did the 72 harness come with the outer casing
also showing the end connector see anything missing
anyone can help me i.d this , not sure why there is no side marker light

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Old 12-30-2022, 04:24 PM
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Get through the weekend, & can do some checking originals for you George. Have many stapled up paper sacks of original engine & front light harnesses. Each sack is tagged as to what the harnesses came out of.

On the plastic convolute tube covering, know my '73 BG project cars original engine harness has that covering. It's an off gray. Years back, had a smoking deal on new wiring harnesses from American Autowire & I ordered several engine harnesses for '73 T/A's w/o air conditioning. Their repro engine harness is spot on & has the correct covering too.

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Old 12-30-2022, 04:28 PM
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Get through the weekend, & can do some checking originals for you George. Have many stapled up paper sacks of original engine & front light harnesses. Each sack is tagged as to what the harnesses came out of.

On the plastic convolute tube covering, know my '73 BG project cars original engine harness has that covering. It's an off gray. Years back, had a smoking deal on new wiring harnesses from American Autowire & I ordered several engine harnesses for '73 T/A's w/o air conditioning. Their repro engine harness is spot on & has the correct covering too.
thanks this one is more of a black if you look at the end connector seems to missing a terminal

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