[muscle_collector]

Originally Posted by The Boss

What about the car? Did the OP buy the car? Was it a Judge?

How long would be a reasonable amount of time for me to wait before I call Jim M. & hook up my trailer?

about 48 hours ago

[indymanjoe]

seen a hint in another post here about a fake PHS in Mass...IDK?

[Steve Hoog]

Originally Posted by jimwankers

you need to spend some time in the northeast, Steve, among all the 455 cars

I wouldn't have to do that if one person here in Tulsa didn't own every 455 car in the south!

[Steve Hoog]

Originally Posted by The Boss

How long would be a reasonable amount of time for me to wait before I call Jim M. & hook up my trailer?

I'd say 24

[Steve Hoog]

Take a look at this red rag top thread and look at the engine bay shot, it has what would appear to be the 455 mounts. Now I'm wondering if my old 69 had pre drilled holes of this nature......

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=703830

[wrongway]

Originally Posted by jimwankers

the frames had the same holes in the same locations, just a different mount. I know they had a different p/n for the 455 frame but you tell me the differences. Not much.

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You're right. I went through pictures of my frame last night & found other pictures of standard 400 frames and they do have the same holes. Have no clue then what the difference would be other than the part number.

And here's a picture of the part number on my frame. That would be another way the car in question that started this topic could be verified as a 455 car.

[north]

Probably because the frame included the bracket to receive the mount. Same thing with several part numbers for the same rad shroud, difference was the insulators were included and different rads needed different insulators.

[Steve Hoog]

OK, so what is going on here with this 69? I'm strating to think I remember my 69 had these extra holes as well.

[north]

Did other gm divisions use those mounts in 69?

Maybe big block chev etc, I think all A bodies used the same frame

[Steve Hoog]

That would be my thought too; but these holes appear to the naked eye dead on match to wrongway's photo.

[marxjunk]

those holes are in all the frames...i bolted a pair of the big 455 mounts in a 70 GTO convert, they bolted right in....my 70 Cutlass convert has the same holes, and so does my 71 GS

[Steve Hoog]

So generic holes that when needed the mounts are drilled to match the pre drilled frame holes? I can get on board with that.

[marxjunk]

yes the holes are there..all the 70 up frames have them..im not sure about 69 or 8s but im sure they are there, i will look today whaen i get to the shop..i have each

they made the mounts to fit the frame..Skylarks use a couple of those holes, so does Cutlass...i gotta look at my chevelle, i think it does too...

[Unclesamscandy]

Originally Posted by north

Did other gm divisions use those mounts in 69?

Maybe big block chev etc, I think all A bodies used the same frame

We went around on this topic in another thread and it was decided by the priests and witches of Specific GTO Glory that no other frame in the universe is the same as the hallowed Pontiac GTO frame which was designed to be the only possible frame that one could put under a GTO. Furthermore no Old, Buick, Chevy frame would be the same, be close, have the same unique features or be possible to install underneath the unique GTO, and that people like me who have thought and done otherwise had better stop talking and better start listening to the loyal priests and witches of Specific GTO Glory. Furthermore if these is anything unusual about a given frame, be aware that it is impossible since all of these handmade cars are virginal and no one ever swapped one out with one from a lowly Chevelle or Cut-less because that would never have worked.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...t=change+frame

Sorry for my rant, but you may have a frame from another car, or may not.

[OVERULD]

Enough about frames...back to more important issues...Boss, what did Jim say?

BJ

[The Boss]

Haven't called him, I went out and bought another GT-37.

[Steve Hoog]

I saw two 71 Judges this weekend, one had the brackets removed and one had the standard old brackets we are used to. Makes me wonder.

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Steve Hoog

I saw two 71 Judges this weekend, one had the brackets removed and one had the standard old brackets we are used to. Makes me wonder.

Frame swap or bracket swap . . .

[Todd Kozak]

maybe one wasn't a 71 Judge

[muscle_collector]

both real deal 71 judges unrestored cars.