[69FIREBIRD76MM]

Originally Posted by thews

A nicely optioned 69 400. It's a Nov 68 car with the "optional" head restraints. Not sure about the reserve, but this car probably has a lot of money in it as it sits.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...m=322074760126

Guy has over "$10,000 on the engine alone..who is he kitting. Nice car though but engine not original.

[keith k]

Originally Posted by thews

A nicely optioned 69 400. It's a Nov 68 car with the "optional" head restraints. Not sure about the reserve, but this car probably has a lot of money in it as it sits.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...m=322074760126

"Rare factory carousel red..."

Do production numbers by color exist for '69 Birds? Just seems like I see a heck of a lot of them that were carousel red. Great color on these cars, but not sure it can be justifiably called rare.

[thews]

Originally Posted by keith k

"Rare factory carousel red..."

Do production numbers by color exist for '69 Birds? Just seems like I see a heck of a lot of them that were carousel red. Great color on these cars, but not sure it can be justifiably called rare.

I've seen the 69 Camaro production numbers by color, but not for the Firebird. The fact that it was special order makes it rare. It looks like a nice base for car... the body work is where most of the money goes.

[thews]

Fitchbird? I don't know what this is?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fitc...m=262410668049

[thews]

Found this:
http://www.firebirdnation.com/forums...itch-firebird/

Fitch Firebird 400 and Sprint (1967) (John Fitch was the first SCCA national champion driver. GM hired him to run a factory Corvette race team at Sebring in 56 and or 57. After that he started John Fitch & Co. in Falls Villiage CT, his big thing was making modified Corvairs called Sprints. They were availiable throught certain Chevy dealers, similiar to Yenko's. He also tweaked other cars such as a 67 Olds, some VW's. He later became involed in automotive safety barriers. Fitch knew John DeLorean who was running Pontiac in 1967, and DeLorean sent Fitch 1 400ci Firebird and 1 OHC 6 cylinder with a four barrel (Pontiac Sprint engine) to play around with as an engineering exercise. When he was done with the 2 cars they where brought back to Pontiac for the evaluation and also to Lime Rock race track in CT. The Fitch cars ran back to back tests with Pontiac engineering dept cars called PFST. At the end of the tests Fitch felt his car was better suited for everyday street driving while the Pontiac PFST wasn't real a street car, more of a race car. My understanding is Pontiac never backed the Fitch car program other than send Fitch the first 2 cars, and Fitch busy with his other projects at the time, never really marketed them other than a few magazine road tests. Fitch doesn't remember how many cars he made in the end, it seem to be around 6-8 cars, all 400ci engines except the 1 OHC Sprint. The Sprint car had factory options of rally gages, console, tilt, wood wheel, deluxe interior, 4 speed, am/fm, hood tach, rally wheels, tinted glass, power disc brakes, and radial tires (actual option on Firebirds in 67). For Fitch mods there's Koni Front shocks, Lucas Flame thrower driving light, mesh in front of the light/grill, adjusted caster, rubber bumpers on the shaft of the front shocks (to change spring rate), re-valved steering and brakes, headlight flasher switch, one time wiper switch, light monitoring panel, leather steering wheel cover, Judson coil, dual exhaust, and the fins an the quater panels (they were to cooling the brakes and let air into the interior but never developed). Also for the 6 cylinder car Fitch want to supercharge it, but never actually developed it. A fitch opted car would sell for about $1000 more than the sticker price on a car. Fiberglass fins are designed to scoop air into interior of car for fresh air supply with all windows closed. Fins also provide easy identification of Fitch-Bird, as opposed to standard Firebird, and were definitely eye-catching. The Fitch-Birds were distinguishable from standard by a wire mesh grille and headlight cover at the front, and Butress-Back tops, trademarks that have distinguished Fitch's recent design efforts. On the test car, the built-in air vents in the Buttresses were non-functional. Fitch estimates cost of the Fitch Firebirds, complete with modifications, at approximately $1000 above the price of a well-equipped standard Firebird Sprint or Firebird 400, depending upon model desired.)

[tekheavy]

Solid cowl area?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...m=252375172295

[thews]

Front-runner for the worst 68 Firebird ever:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...m=222113938397

[rexs73gto]

I wonder why it says may not ship to USA. Is it out of the country somewhere ?? Not a bad looking car. It looks like it was done pretty good.

[thews]

Here's a 69 convert with a lot of options. Not sure what the reserve is, but the option list has almost all of the cool ones:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...m=262431211661

[johnta1]

I didn't see where it had an option list?

From what I can tell this car was not born as an original 400 car.

It didn't even have a V8, it was a 6 cylinder car.

A convertible 69 Bird is good no matter what engine it came with, though.

[thews]

Originally Posted by johnta1

I didn't see where it had an option list?



It didn't even have a V8, it was a 6 cylinder car.

A convertible 69 Bird is good no matter what engine it came with, though.

Ouch baby, very ouch. Not really sure what it came with, but rather what it has. A fold down rear seat, rally gauges, 4-speed, Rally II's, a YT 400 engine... not too shabby.

I doubt I'll ever try and buy another rare car and reproduce it as it came from the factory. I had a customer in the other day and he saw my Pontiac stuff on the wall. He brought in a picture book of his restoration on a 69 convert he did over 10 years ago and is long gone. I asked him what color it was originally, and his answer was he didn't care. He painted it blue with a black interior and white top... beautiful car. If I were to buy this car on eBay, it would be Springmist green with a light green interior and dark green top. When it's all said and done, if it doesn't have the born-with block or isn't a super rare car, the money isn't much different if you just built it like you'd want it.

[FunctionalShaker]

Good car to make the way you would order it in 69. Looks like a blue interior. I wonder what the original exterior color was?

[thews]

68 400 convert 4-speed with a red interior... wow.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...m=301954955191

[MikeNoun]

Originally Posted by thews

68 400 convert 4-speed with a red interior... wow.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...m=301954955191

That's an export car too. Built at Lordstown, shipped to New York, overseas delivery.

[thews]

Nicely optioned 68 convert for $15.9K.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...m=301963766143

[thews]

Here's a 69 Firebird convert for $4K that may be worth it, but the note at the end of the ad states he also has a 69 Trans AM (pictured) with a donor car for $19K, though the T/A doesn't have its own ad.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/69-Pontiac-C...lXTBTf&vxp=mtr

[Bet Winner]

I reluctantly have mine for sale. I have 2 young boys and too many toys it seems. I am letting the toys sit too much so this should allow me to concentrate on the Judge some more.

Michael

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231960460038...84.m1555.l2649

[thews]

Originally Posted by Bet Winner

I reluctantly have mine for sale. I have 2 young boys and too many toys it seems. I am letting the toys sit too much so this should allow me to concentrate on the Judge some more.

Michael

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231960460038...84.m1555.l2649

Nice car.

[thews]

Hard to beat this 69 Hardtop 4-speed 400 car for BIN at $6.8K. It's a black plate California car which really reduces rust.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...m=122005564102

[thews]

68 400 4-speed posi car. Red with black int. No motor or trans, but the posi is worth the $500 reserve.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Fire...m=252416167410