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Old 05-15-2012, 01:21 PM
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Default The Dreaded melted fog light

So I was in the process of replacing my fog lights when I tried to pull out the bulb only to notice that the place where the bulb is held has melted.

LAME.

I have come up with a game plan to fix this and get some higher wattage bulb (H3) in the stock housing.

ALSO after doing some research I found a place that sells LED replacements for the stock 880 fog lamp
http://www.superbrightleds.com/vehic...irebird/48/524

The LED replacements produce less heat and will not melt the fog IMO, you could probably even jump up to a 893 bulb and or the 50W version and get more wattage but no to little heat because of the LEDs and no filament

Anyways back to fixing the melted fog light.

First thing I am going to do is remove the melted portion (pictures to come)

Then I am going to buy some cheap metal housing driving lights and hack them up to use the back and where the bulb mounts.

To connect the different style bulb I am going to cannibalize the base of the burnt out 880 bulbs and solder the H3 bulb connectors to those 880 bases, that way I dont mess with the stock wiring.

So as this project progresses I am going to posts pictures.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:23 PM
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I have a 97 thats not a TA and put Hella driving lights in the holes and they work great
looks pretty good too.

here it is in the middle of 2 more of my 4th gens,both of which have since been sold
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:06 AM
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So finally uploaded the pictures:

Here are my foglights


note how the warped/melted place where the bulb should go

I marked off where I wanted to cut it


Then I cut it with a razor saw for plastic
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:08 AM
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Here is the foglight that I bought at Pepboys for 19 bucks for the pair.
I am going to cannibalize the rear portion of the housing


I mark where I want to cut it with a file, also note how the place where the bulb goes is similar in size and shape


So I cut it with my dremel


then I cut the sides off so it will mate up with the stock foglight cleanly
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:10 AM
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After I get the replacement piece all filed and clean, I fit check it. its pretty damn close to perfect





So out comes the JB weld (max temp rating of 450 should be good enough)


And one is done.

here is a comparison
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just curious if theres not one thats got a glass and metal housing that could be used for this
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just curious if theres not one thats got a glass and metal housing that could be used for this
the problem with the LT1 Trans Am lamp is that the housing is plastic (Im assuming there is an aluminum lining inside for the reflector, but its super thin), but the lens is glass so the glass is good, but the plastic isnt.

the LS1 Trans Am lamp is plastic/plastic and both melt.

I have seen some Hella replacements that are metal and glass, but they are $150+
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I have seen some Hella replacements that are metal and glass, but they are $150+[/QUOTE]

did you see the Hellas in mine?
I love the light those put out.
Only danger is that if you run them too long and turn them off you cant see for a second until your eyes readjust.
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:19 PM
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I have seen some Hella replacements that are metal and glass, but they are $150+
did you see the Hellas in mine?
I love the light those put out.
Only danger is that if you run them too long and turn them off you cant see for a second until your eyes readjust.[/QUOTE]

nah I havent, did you post them here?
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oh, you were talking about the square ones?
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no actually they are the F form and look like cat eyes.
the amount of light they put out is phenomenal,even with the stock bulbs.
they come in 2 versions fog or driving
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no actually they are the F form and look like cat eyes.
the amount of light they put out is phenomenal,even with the stock bulbs.
they come in 2 versions fog or driving

still not sure what you are talking about.

Its this picture right?


and you are talking about the fogs on the red one in the middle?
or another one?

because if you converted to hella on the others I am really interested, since they are basically the same fog on the LS and LT versions, just the bracket is longer
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yes the oval ones on the red car
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yes the oval ones on the red car
oh they are oval, I see, from the picture I had thought they were square
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