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Old 12-08-2019, 01:54 PM
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So years ago I purchased a 69 FB from a friend a good solid parts and pieces car, so yesterday I had some time and decoded it, turns out it is a stripped almost no option s car, radio delete, no gauges, no lighter etc, it was manual brake/ steering, has buckets but no console, auto on the column, car was a special order Windward blue, VIN says it was a 6 cyl. car, so my question is, were ALL the 69 FB's the OHC 6 or was there a base/base chevy OHV six, I was going to 400/400 the car, but maybe a cammer sprint six would be just as cool???

Any complete HO Sprints around?? Did they come with auto's? Educate me,,,

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Old 12-08-2019, 02:10 PM
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OHC 6 was std engine (250 1bbl), Sprint 6, 350-2bbl, 350 HO, & the four 400 4bbl engines were all optional. No Chevy 6 cyl's, 2 of the rusty Sprint6 '69 Birds I've parted had T400's.

Converting a 6cyl to Pontiac V8, you will need correct engine mount brackets as well as engine accessory brackets, engine harness, etc. Have all in stock but new wiring harness, which typ source new through a local source from American Autowire.

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Old 12-08-2019, 05:52 PM
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:58 PM
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That's a tiny number of cars for GM.

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Old 12-08-2019, 06:06 PM
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The math is wrong on the automatic column.
Should be Grand Total of 482 automatics and Grand Total of all Sprints = 1979

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HaHa. That's because they still used an abacus back then.

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Old 12-08-2019, 06:46 PM
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You are correct I posted an incorrect page from my files.
I forgot which publication that was from but below is the correct info;

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So Transporter was it a Sprint or just an OHC?...

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Old 12-09-2019, 10:12 AM
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So Transporter was it a Sprint or just an OHC?...
I don't know, didnt have a motor, and I didn't order a PHS, I really doubt it was a Sprint as the seemingly has only 2 options, auto and Windward blue paint.

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OHC 6 was std engine (250 1bbl), Sprint 6, 350-2bbl, 350 HO, & the four 400 4bbl engines were all optional. No Chevy 6 cyl's, 2 of the rusty Sprint6 '69 Birds I've parted had T400's.

Converting a 6cyl to Pontiac V8, you will need correct engine mount brackets as well as engine accessory brackets, engine harness, etc. Have all in stock but new wiring harness, which typ source new through a local source from American Autowire.
ol Pinion head - Are you sure they were TH400's? I know that TH350's were a Mid year change in 69 for Automatic Firebird Sprints, but I have never seen a Sprint with a Stock TH400 before.

Transporter, it probably was a base 1bbl OHC-6 Bird, but the lack of options does not mean it wasn't a Sprint, my 69 Sprint FB came with only Power Steering, an in Dash Clock, AM Mono one speaker radio, and Posi.

If it still has the original rocker trim and Leaf Springs, a Quick check is 3 or 4 leafs in the rear springs, 3 are base 1bbl, 4 leafs are a Sprint, and does it have the holes in the rocker trim for the "Sprint" emblems? There are some other tells like a basic in dash Gauge Package with Oil Pressure & Engine Temp Gauges, and quicker ratio steering. But I usually could tell by the Leaf Springs.

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ol Pinion head - Are you sure they were TH400's? I know that TH350's were a Mid year change in 69 for Automatic Firebird Sprints, but I have never seen a Sprint with a Stock TH400 before.

Transporter, it probably was a base 1bbl OHC-6 Bird, but the lack of options does not mean it wasn't a Sprint, my 69 Sprint FB came with only Power Steering, an in Dash Clock, AM Mono one speaker radio, and Posi.

If it still has the original rocker trim and Leaf Springs, a Quick check is 3 or 4 leafs in the rear springs, 3 are base 1bbl, 4 leafs are a Sprint, and does it have the holes in the rocker trim for the "Sprint" emblems? There are some other tells like a basic in dash Gauge Package with Oil Pressure & Engine Temp Gauges, and quicker ratio steering. But I usually could tell by the Leaf Springs.
THX for the info!!! It just has 3 leafs, and no gauge pkg just lights, so apparently it is/was just a std 6, paint and auto the only options, also checked the rear, std open 3.23, Of course it may of had soft ray glass or some other small option, hubcaps, trunk lite etc, but I have no idea as I stated it is a basket car, front and rear glass are gone. But again, thx for all the help from everyone. learned a lot and didnt have to spring for the PHS.........


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Old 12-15-2019, 03:39 PM
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But that doesn't mean I have made up my mind on a motor, I have plenty of Pontiac V8 cars, and a couple of Slant 4 Tempests, maybe kinda neat to add an OHC Six????? Would still be a fairly low production number car, not that it means that much other than you may not see another one at the car show?

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