[Steve Hoog]

Was talking to ole Dan tonight on the phone, and we beat heads to say it would go 140K.

I got to tell ya, the POCI is going to be one nutty thing for fact I'll have to meet all you pecker woods.

[Ron Landis]

old Pontiacs are WORSE than crack! That's a RA IV headbold Greg is holding and Kevin is holding a RA V piece. It was a private joke of sorts and they were sending a message. BTW...Deja Vu all over again, as Greg sat there and watch folks price my GP ragtop and walk off. He couldn't take it any longer and bought that car, too! His frequent flyer miles are adding up! What a blast that weekend was. Anyway...I digress. Would an official contest be uncouth? Closest to the penny on what the RA IV brings gets a prize of my choosing, to be announced. I'll go thru some junk...I mean "treasures" tomorrow! lol Ron

[The Boss]

Greg,

You know what they say, Opinions are like ***holes, everyones got one. I agree we all had a shot, tremendous value, beautiful car - you picked it up and were able to profit from it....that's how it goes some times. I think it's great that you are saving these cars, restoring them and getting them back out there. I loved that white over red 70 you just sold, would have liked to have that one myself.

I just feel bad for Ron on this one, wish he and his son had been able to make out better.

Chris

PS: My prediction $200,000 if it's sold on Friday, Saturday or Sunday - $160,000 if not.

[bulletpruf]

Originally Posted by The Boss

Greg,

You know what they say, Opinions are like ***holes, everyones got one. I agree we all had a shot, tremendous value, beautiful car - you picked it up and were able to profit from it....that's how it goes some times. I think it's great that you are saving these cars, restoring them and getting them back out there. I loved that white over red 70 you just sold, would have liked to have that one myself.

I just feel bad for Ron on this one, wish he and his son had been able to make out better.

Chris

PS: My prediction $200,000 if it's sold on Friday, Saturday or Sunday - $160,000 if not.

$200k?!?!? Yikes! I'll never be able to afford one if that's what they're bringing!

My guess - $115,000.

Scott

[gregsgtos2]

i sold the car for 68k,not 75k.last year the average price on wednesday was 30k,jeff has to be holding his breath on this fact.he could actually lose his butt.every car there this year is no reserve.i will be there when it crosses the block,and if people are napping again,i WILL try to buy it back.i dont know how anybody can sell a car at a no reserve auction.the cards are all stacked against the seller.barrett doesnt care what it brings,the get 18%,no matter what jeff ended up with in the car,they are making EASY money.i think on wednesday,it wont break 100k.good luck to jeff,this car is a major investment.greg

[Steve Hoog]

Why do thousands upon thousands of people blow their pay checks at Casinos?

I'll be watching from the comfort of my couch with a mixed drink. It's a sharp car and I see no reason it won't catch the eye of several big money people that want a cool GTO to have fun with. Granted it may not be the top collector car, but I think it will hold it's own from what I've seen with other cars going over the block.

[JLHarper]

Based on jumps in late 06 prices (RAIV) I think the RAIV will come out strong.

I sold some RAIV parts to non Pontiac car collector who was buying up anything he could find. The RAIV has the non Pontiac collectors attention, but just because they go for the highest powerplant in production rule in collecting.

Guys who know this market better then me and dont spend time on car forums are saying watch for big jump in interest in RAIV and Judges in 07 (with one out shining the other).

[JLHarper]

Originally Posted by north

My only comment is that eBay should only be used to list cars for auction, it is a misuse of the site. Just my 2 cents.

I was kinda surprised about that as well. I thought they bring buyers and sellers together via their online auctions. Its in their mission statement somewhere.

I questioned the "take over leases" on ebay (I was going to do one) but they said it was OK as it brings buyers and sellers together.

I guess this add can be losely interpeted to say that a buyer and seller is being introduced, but through B&J.

[gregsgtos2]

they are keeping the raiv gtos out of the prime time slots.the red raiv is wednesday night,the 69 judge conv.is going across the block on sunday night.everybody i talk to said the place is a ghost town after 1pm on sunday.the judge conv is a raiii.there is also a 70 raiv judge,but dont know what day it is selling.i took a 1969 raiv judge to fall mecum.frame off-movie star-as bruno called it.120k was high bid.this is the same sale that they sold the randy williams super duty collection at.there was plenty of pontiac guys there.people throw 100k-200k prices like it is monopoly money.it might be,unless YOU are the one writing the check,then it doesnt get any more real than that.when a price of a car gets over 50k,the crowd thins WAY down.

[The Boss]

One of these days, the RA IV will get the same kind of money as the Hemi and the LS-6 - this might be the year where the rest of the world wakes up.

[Jerry H.]

Originally Posted by jegstek

old Pontiacs are WORSE than crack! That's a RA IV headbold Greg is holding and Kevin is holding a RA V piece. It was a private joke of sorts and they were sending a message. BTW...Deja Vu all over again, as Greg sat there and watch folks price my GP ragtop and walk off. He couldn't take it any longer and bought that car, too! His frequent flyer miles are adding up! What a blast that weekend was. Anyway...I digress. Would an official contest be uncouth? Closest to the penny on what the RA IV brings gets a prize of my choosing, to be announced. I'll go thru some junk...I mean "treasures" tomorrow! lol Ron

You're exactly right about the crack! My guess is going to be a little low, mainly because of the time it is going through the auction. I'm going to say $95k, and I hope that I'm way low.

[JKGTO]

My guess is $90K because it is not a Judge and is not #s matching. Jim

[robz]

"One of these days, the RA IV will get the same kind of money as the Hemi and the LS-6 - this might be the year where the rest of the world wakes up."

Unfortunately they probably won't, as you have to remember Hemis and LS6 are also going up in value every year, so they should still stay on top of any RAIV

[Steve Hoog]

I'm might have to go with Robz opinion on that one. BUTT would be nice if Chris was right and we got more respect in the area.

I would say the problem is the Pontiac group is VERY loyal to itself, not too many people come or go from our family. But the Hemi's and Chevy's get more new people in the group, and the non-car enthusiast investor type person seems to focus on the Hemi/Chevy simply because they bring top dollar. And face it, most Pontiac guys are tight azz'es when it comes to opening their wallet.

[robz]

Steve, you might say LS6/Hemis are more like prostitutes in the car market, while RAIVs are more like virgins..LOL!..OK I never said that...

[Steve Hoog]

HAHA

[SuperStockAMX]

This will be played at the tent throughout the day. This DVD is almost done, I told my friend that's doing it to take out the Judge ads.


http://video.google.com:80/videoplay...90812072671807

also, check out the ebay site. I added a poster (reader board) to the pictures.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...67394480QQrdZ1

Hope you all enjoy it.

[Steve Hoog]

The blonde in the passenger seat of that 65 looks hot for what you can tell in that BW.

[PB]

Originally Posted by gregsgtos2

i sold the car for 68k,not 75k.last year the average price on wednesday was 30k,jeff has to be holding his breath on this fact.he could actually lose his butt.every car there this year is no reserve.i will be there when it crosses the block,and if people are napping again,i WILL try to buy it back.i dont know how anybody can sell a car at a no reserve auction.the cards are all stacked against the seller.barrett doesnt care what it brings,the get 18%,no matter what jeff ended up with in the car,they are making EASY money.i think on wednesday,it wont break 100k.good luck to jeff,this car is a major investment.greg

My understanding of these so called "no reserve" auctions is that if the price is not bringing what the seller wants, they simply bid on it themselves, or have someone they know bid. They simply buy it back. Sure, it costs them 18%, but the 18% may be a far better payout then losing your azz to an under bid vehicle. Who would buy these cars at a BJ auction for these inflated prices? When you can go out like Greg did and buy it at a national show. These cars are out there to be had like that, heck even on ebay, but there you run into the same problem at BJ.

[Jerry H.]

Oh no, there was a scratch on one of the Ralley II's on the 67 in the video!. Now everyone restoring a 67 for concourse will be trying to duplicate that scratch! LOL