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Old 08-16-2019, 06:15 PM
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Default 69 RAIV 4 Speed Carburetor?

I think this is an original factory RAIV 4 speed carburetor. Am I right or are there other numbers on the pieces I should look for? Also a ballpark value, everything moves freely on this carb?
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:01 PM
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look legit to me;
the airhorn is hard to properly distinguish;
it has the correct original choke weight;
it has the correct original choke pulloff;
the stamp looks legit;
that's a very valuable carb;
any value i might place to it would be speculative, Cliff or Carbking should be able to give you a value.

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Old 08-16-2019, 10:11 PM
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Looks like the **** to me! I'm sure the PM's are flowing. 4500 is the number in my book.

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Old 08-18-2019, 12:33 PM
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look legit to me;
the airhorn is hard to properly distinguish;
it has the correct original choke weight;
it has the correct original choke pulloff;
the stamp looks legit;
that's a very valuable carb;
any value i might place to it would be speculative, Cliff or Carbking should be able to give you a value.
Yes it is very valuable. I had one rebuilt by Cliff a few years back and he authenticated it and claimed it was worth about 4K! Cliff told me to insure it for at least that when I shipped it to him. There is some documented date codes seen on the 29273 carbs but I can't recall at the moment if this date code is one of them. You can research this on PY to find out. Further, this is one of the most counterfeited carbs for Pontiacs so be careful. There have been stories circulating around that some rebuilders swap out these rare carbs and send a counterfeit one back to the owner. That is how valuable these carbs are.

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Old 08-18-2019, 01:04 PM
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I think the font style on the 3, 7 and 4 is wrong.
What are the cast numbers on airhorn (inside), bowl and plate?
Also, i would like to see the fine stamped numbers on passenger side of airhorn and beneath the fuel inlet to verify this carb..

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Yes it is very valuable. I had one rebuilt by Cliff a few years back and he authenticated it and claimed it was worth about 4K! Cliff told me to insure it for at least that when I shipped it to him. There is some documented date codes seen on the 29273 carbs but I can't recall at the moment if this date code is one of them. You can research this on PY to find out. Further, this is one of the most counterfeited carbs for Pontiacs so be careful. There have been stories circulating around that some rebuilders swap out these rare carbs and send a counterfeit one back to the owner. That is how valuable these carbs are.

This is why I don't send mine out to get rebuilt. I don't trust anybody..

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Old 08-22-2019, 10:35 PM
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Here's pictures of the numbers I can see. Verdict???
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the stamped numbers on the butterflys are of no use.
The cast number on the back of the fuel bowl confirms it as being an original 1969 Pontiac fuel bowl, no more...
I do not have sufficient info recorded for the number cast or number stamped under the fuel filter housing (the front of the fuel bowl).
Each of the three sections (top/airhorn, center/fuel bowl, bottom/throttle body) are unique in one or more ways from regular units;
The uniqueness of the parts is generally distinguished by the cast in numbers on the parts - not the stamped numbers.

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2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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