[67drake]

I thought this was a spoof video at 1st, but I don’t know....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QPVs03aZjmc

[Mr Anonymous]

Well, you gotta do what you gotta do, I guess. Most every method he showed wouldn't work for 99% of the filter applications I've ever seen, but maybe someone can use it. I did, however, have to "make" my own oil change tool for a 1985 blazer 2.8 v6, 4x4. It was a small piece of angle iron, with two angry wood screws welded to it, and then a hex bolt welded on the other side to put a socket and extension on, to get it out over the LF wheel. You'd smack the extension with the hammer, which would drive the wood screws into the filter, spin it off, and then let it fall down where you could reach thru above the upper control arm and fish it out with your index finger and thumb. When I sold the damn vehicle, I handed said tool to the new owner. he called me a month later and thanked me immensely. Worst vehicle to ever change oil filter on that I ever found.

[67drake]

Originally Posted by Mr Anonymous

Well, you gotta do what you gotta do, I guess. Most every method he showed wouldn't work for 99% of the filter applications I've ever seen, but maybe someone can use it. I did, however, have to "make" my own oil change tool for a 1985 blazer 2.8 v6, 4x4. It was a small piece of angle iron, with two angry wood screws welded to it, and then a hex bolt welded on the other side to put a socket and extension on, to get it out over the LF wheel. You'd smack the extension with the hammer, which would drive the wood screws into the filter, spin it off, and then let it fall down where you could reach thru above the upper control arm and fish it out with your index finger and thumb. When I sold the damn vehicle, I handed said tool to the new owner. he called me a month later and thanked me immensely. Worst vehicle to ever change oil filter on that I ever found.

What? A scissor jack wouldn’t work?

[geeteeohguy]

I have a three fingered, gear driven Hazet claw that works on every filter no matter how tight or confined. It takes up no room, and the tighter the filter is, the tighter the fingers clamp into it. I've had it almost 40 years.

[dataway]

That Hazet is a nice piece of German made kit.

[Simple Man]

and to think I just threw one of those jacks away.....

[DavesGTO]

Originally Posted by dataway

That Hazet is a nice piece of German made kit.

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[mgarblik]

I just had this really crazy idea. How about installing the filter "hand tight" as designed. Then you can use the scissor jack to drop the car on yourself when changing that flat tire.

[Region Warrior]

Yep only hand tight.
No leaks since 1977...

[David Jones]

I bought a brand new GTI back in 1983. I attempted my 1st oil change on it and the car ended up on a rollback going to the VW dealership. My filter wrench collapsed the filter and I ended up breaking the filter housing and the filter never did turn loose of it. The dealership said they'd had that problem with a few new ones.

[hurryinhoosier62]

You mean you just can’t drive a screwdriver through the oil filter?

[GT182]

Originally Posted by hurryinhoosier62

You mean you just can’t drive a screwdriver through the oil filter?

LOL... I've had to do that a few times myself. Last time was on the GTO's filter.

[Will]

I've never had any problems with a filter I've installed.

But back when I bought my truck whoever'd worked on it before must've felt that filters are supposed to be as tight as you can get them. After crushing the filter body with my filter wrench I drove a screw driver through the body of the filter and proceeded to rip the filter body right off the base which remained stubbornly screwed to the engine. Fortunately this was on an '80s Toyota with a 22R so the filter was very accessible with plenty of working room around it. I had to pry up an edge of the filter base off the mounting pad with a chisel then put vice grips on it and hammer on the vice grip to get it to come loose.

Then there was the '72 Blazer I bought. Had a sticker on the windshield from Jiffy Lube showing the oil had been changed recently. It was leaking quite a bit of oil and when I got under it to look at it I realized it was leaking from the filter-engine interface as the filter was so loose it spun off with no pressure at all.

Somehow I've never had a problem finding the happy medium between those two extremes.

[Sirrotica]

The tightest filters are many time installed by the factory, at least that's what I've seen over the years. The filters that came in for the first service were many times tightened way to tight.

Another thing that will tighten a filter is if it's run so long that it starts to run in by pass mode, I'm not sure of the physics that make this happen, but neglected engines seem to have some of the tightest filters on them.

This was verified by heavy equipment mechanics in the field, servicing machines well past the PM windows. The years I worked on equipment I know I was the last person to service the machine and didn't overtighten the filters, yet they were a bear to remove when I went to service it again.

If you destroy the filter down to the threaded plate trying to remove it, the easiest thing is to catch a chisel edge in the holes in the plate and use the hammer and chisel to turn the plate, no need to drive a chisel between the block and plate to bend it away from the block.

[Will]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

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If you destroy the filter down to the threaded plate trying to remove it, the easiest thing is to catch a chisel edge in the holes in the plate and use the hammer and chisel to turn the plate, no need to drive a chisel between the block and plate to bend it away from the block.

Thanks for the tip. Hopefully I'll never encounter that again!