[68bird400HO]

I haven't been watching these wheels as closely lately, but, here was the last JW I saw go on Ebay. Price looked cheap until you see the large bent area on the wheel bead. Apparently, that is fixable?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...7;3AMEWAX%3AIT

[FunctionalShaker]

Yes, repairable. Even bad lug holes can be repaired.

[2manyT/A'S]

Originally Posted by TA455HO

In this thread, post #30. 2Many? Could you be mistaken? Pictures?


http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=583466


Not sure who Boss is betting against but maybe it's only a virtual $5 anyway...

Well it looks like I messed up.

Found my notes (yes I do write things down) & I DID transpose the numbers.

S/B 4-9.

I will check actual wheel when I get a chance.

[68bird400HO]

Originally Posted by TA455HO

JW
1/26/70 - Monday
1/27/70 - Tuesday
3/9/70 - Monday
4/6/70 - Monday
4/10/70 - Friday
4/13/70 - Monday
4/24/70 - Friday
4/27/70 - Monday
5/11/70 - Monday
5/25/70 - Monday
6/25/70 - Thursday
7/15/70 - Wednesday
9/4/70 - Friday

KN
7/27/70 - Monday
7/28/70 - Tuesday

KR
11/9/70 - Monday
11/10/70 - Tuesday
12/28/70 - Monday
12/29/70 - Tuesday
12/30/70 - Wednesday
1/4/71 - Monday
1/21/71 - Thursday
5/29/71 - Saturday
12/29/71 - Wednesday
2/28/72 - Monday
3/25/72 - Saturday

I have also seen October 1970 dated KRs on Ebay. I cannot remember the exact date however.

[TA455HO]

With the latest corrections and attachments. If you have a file to attach go ahead and do so in this thread and I'll add it to the list on the next update. I grabbed that 1/27/70 picture from eBay. If you have some on Photobucket or anywhere else on the Internet point me to them and I'll add them here. I'll add the 12/30/70 attachment when I get that wheel.

JW
1/26/70 - Monday Attachment 212850
1/27/70 - Tuesday Attachment 212920
3/9/70 - Monday Attachment 212849
4/6/70 - Monday
4/9/70 - Thursday
4/10/70 - Friday
4/13/70 - Monday
4/24/70 - Friday
4/27/70 - Monday
5/11/70 - Monday
5/25/70 - Monday
6/25/70 - Thursday
7/15/70 - Wednesday

KN
7/27/70 - Monday Attachment 212870
7/28/70 - Tuesday Attachment 212869

KR
11/9/70 - Monday
11/10/70 - Tuesday
12/28/70 - Monday
12/29/70 - Tuesday Attachment 212867
12/30/70 - Wednesday
1/4/71 - Monday Attachment 212868
1/21/71 - Thursday
5/29/71 - Saturday
12/8/71 - Wednesday
12/9/71 - Thursday
12/29/71 - Wednesday
2/25/72 - Friday
2/28/72 - Monday
3/25/72 - Saturday

[MixedMuscle]

Attached are pics of JW wheels dated 4/10/70 and 4/13/70. My Norwood built car with build date of 05D has two of each.

[RAJ7395]

I'm in the market for a set of JW dated 01/27/70 for a new project. Please let me know if anyone has a lead on some.

Regards,
Rob

[70RAlll]

Originally Posted by MixedMuscle

Attached are pics of JW wheels dated 4/10/70 and 4/13/70. My Norwood built car with build date of 05D has two of each.

I am glad to see the post you have made here. I think more cars were delivered with mis matched dates that with 4 correct perfectly matching dates. I have looked at a 18k mile survivor RAIV that had 4 4/6/70's and 2 4/13/70's./.. The spare has never been out of the trunk..

My 1971 HO TA, C6 71 built car, has 12/29 and 12/30 KR's on it.. DO not have the spare,so I am not sure what the original spare was. I thik this has to be one of the few original items(the spare) this car doesn't still have.

My POINT here is, so many of us search for the exact same 5 date coded wheels thinking we are doing the correct thing for our restoration, I believe more times than not you got 3 of one date and 2 of another date. I have even heard of some later 70 models getting JW's and KN's mixed.. GM wasn't code crazy as we all can get(I know I have been guilty of this)...SO yes, glat to see your correct mis matched dates...just like my 1971 HO has...

[455hota]

Just to confirm what MixedMuscle and 70RAIII posted, my 70 TA was built in Norwood the first week of June. It has three 4/9 JW's and one 4/13 JW. The spare was long gone, so I do not know what it was. I am keeping an eye open for one but I do not want to cash in my 401K!

Here is a pic of each date:

[keith k]

I've actually never bothered to check the date codes on the wheels on my cars, but after reading this thread today, I decided to. Pics below are what's on the TA (3 JWs and 1 KR).

Any thoughts?

[eaglesan13]

Maybe it had a rim replaced under warranty.

If this is your trans am I seem to recall it was very close in proximity to my old 70, which was an 04B Van Nuys car, and it had all 4 rims dated 1/27/70 (the spare was missing).

Originally Posted by keith k

I've actually never bothered to check the date codes on the wheels on my cars, but after reading this thread today, I decided to. Pics below are what's on the TA (3 JWs and 1 KR).

Any thoughts?

[1971WARBIRD]

we need to check the dates,but the 1971 i traded to Wayne has 2 JW's and 2 KR's.always wondered about that one.

[FunctionalShaker]

Originally Posted by keith k

I've actually never bothered to check the date codes on the wheels on my cars, but after reading this thread today, I decided to. Pics below are what's on the TA (3 JWs and 1 KR).

Any thoughts?

Looks like some new numbers to add to TA455HO's list.

Odd that there's no year number below the M1 code.

[keith k]

Originally Posted by FunctionalShaker

Odd that there's no year number below the M1 code.

That's what I thought...

[wwilder9]

Originally Posted by 1971WARBIRD

we need to check the dates,but the 1971 i traded to Wayne has 2 JW's and 2 KR's.always wondered about that one.

Got home tonight and looked at the rims on the 71TA,
JW 1-27-1970
JW 4-13-1970
KR 11-10-1970
KR 11-10-1970
The JW's are kinda spread out so I don't know what to think of this one, car is 02B (Second week in February). I can send pictures if someone needs them. My 1970 Formula also has 3 of this kind of rally on it, I will look at the this week end some time, and repost.

[70RAlll]

Originally Posted by wwilder9

Got home tonight and looked at the rims on the 71TA,
JW 1-27-1970
JW 4-13-1970
KR 11-10-1970
KR 11-10-1970
The JW's are kinda spread out so I don't know what to think of this one, car is 02B (Second week in February). I can send pictures if someone needs them. My 1970 Formula also has 3 of this kind of rally on it, I will look at the this week end some time, and repost.

winder, your cars once again supports my comments that as many, if not more, of our cars rolled off the assembly line with mismatched (date codes) wheels. As nice and clean as it looks to have all matching numbered wheels....I just don't believe the assembly guys cared. As long as they were the correct wheels, the build dates did n't matter. I have said for years this kind of stuff transfers all through out our cars. I know some guys try and get every date code to match up cleanly within 2-4 months before production(including all engine compartment cades) and I just have not seen this with my experience. Did some cars have perfectly matching date codes, you betch'ya... But I think as many, if not more had mis-matched wheels. I knwo for one, my 71 HO, when finished...which will have every single bolts original(no repo's) and details that are almost obsessive, but as far as date codes...I am leaving them mismatched as came. Date codes were just that, when they were manufactured..there was no assembly requirement to match date codes or have date codes within a specified time. WOuld it make sense that due to componant delivery schedules, most date codes should be with in 2-4 months of build dates, yes...sounds reasonable... but as we see here, example after example... just not what we have seen..

my 2c..

[wwilder9]

Originally Posted by 70RAlll

winder, your cars once again supports my comments that as many, if not more, of our cars rolled off the assembly line with mismatched (date codes) wheels. As nice and clean as it looks to have all matching numbered wheels....I just don't believe the assembly guys cared. As long as they were the correct wheels, the build dates did n't matter. I have said for years this kind of stuff transfers all through out our cars. I know some guys try and get every date code to match up cleanly within 2-4 months before production(including all engine compartment cades) and I just have not seen this with my experience. Did some cars have perfectly matching date codes, you betch'ya... But I think as many, if not more had mis-matched wheels. I knwo for one, my 71 HO, when finished...which will have every single bolts original(no repo's) and details that are almost obsessive, but as far as date codes...I am leaving them mismatched as came. Date codes were just that, when they were manufactured..there was no assembly requirement to match date codes or have date codes within a specified time. WOuld it make sense that due to componant delivery schedules, most date codes should be with in 2-4 months of build dates, yes...sounds reasonable... but as we see here, example after example... just not what we have seen..

my 2c..

I agree totally with what your saying on this one, people in this hobby sometimes go way overboard with the numbers, when these cars were built they didn't care about when the parts were made, They only cared that they had the parts to put the cars together and get them shipped out to the dealers. And I'm sure they didn't rotate their stock to use the oldest first, they just used what they had available.

[1971455HO]

I'll go you one better than that, gentlemen. This is not related to correct Rally II wheels but dig this: I bought a brand new 1988 GMC 1/2 ton SWB loaded, right off the show room floor in late summer of 1987. I babied that truck until the day traded it. Here's the story. The radios in these trucks had a built in boost amplifier if you pressed the two correct buttons simultaneously. Luckily, I had purchased the extended warranty. After about 3 years one day, the radio with the volume turned wide open, could be just barely heard. I took it to the dealer and the next day he called me up and asked if I had ever done anything to this radio. I answered him and said, I don't even know how to get to the radio, much less do anything to it. There was a long pause on his end...and then he said, because my truck had a 1987 Buick Lesabre amp in it that had the connectors cut off and directly spliced to my radio harness. I told him I couldn't help that, I had bought it brand new from them and I had no idea how to even work on the radio or anything else under the dash! They fixed it, but it never played as good as when the big Buick amp was working. So you see guys, they could and would do anything at the factory to get them off the line and out the door. I also later discovered that the original windshield had been replaced with a aftermarket piece. Didn't realize it at the time of purchase, I was suffering from the fever you get when you buy a new vehicle. I checked on this and found out that if a vehicle is damaged in transit before it arrives at the dealer, there's a good chance it will be taken to an approved repair shop near the delivery hub that GM does business with. My truck was shipped via train to Atlanta to their receiving / staging area for truck delivery to dealers. Some dealers simply send drivers to pick them up. Mine was the latter. I asked why my truck had 160 miles on it when it was on the show room floor. They confirmed it had been driven from the GM terminal in Atlanta. That's how they got nearly all of their new inventory. Evidently the windshield was cracked or broken when it arrived so off to the garage to be replaced. So guys when you buy one, it's a real good idea to really take a good look at your new car. It may have already been in the repair shop even before you buy it.

my 2 cents. Eddie

[johnta1]

Maybe someone broke the windshield stole the original radio and it was replaced before the dealer got it?

[RicksGTO]

just got a KR wheel for my car with a new date code to add to the above list, 10-25-71