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70 mint turquoise
My car has been undergoing a refreshing of the outside and in. Replaced the driver's door with a proper 70 model, installed nos Rear quarters, New carpet ,headliner, Package tray, ect. My car was originally mint turquoise ,body guy used Sherwin Williams paint and went by the original formula from them. Have a couple of samples Of the original paint that was underneath some weather stripping. It looks Very close but to me it could use a little more hint of more blue and less green. I was gonna have him paint the whole car over if we could find a better match. Talking to the local paint shops they said they couldn't get any closer. I even went to Napa and had them make up 2 samples in deltron and omni in mint turquoise and put them next to the sherwin williams paint and they all look identical. Am I crazy for wanting to paint the whole car again or is it so close I should just leave it? Its bc/cc.
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86' |
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Few more..its hard to the lighting just right for accuracy comparison
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86' |
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If it were my car, I would leave it as is and enjoy the car. That is a very nice color.
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Looks great, love that color. I'd leave it - match looks almost dead-on to me. You might not be as happy with the respray...
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69 Judge, SURVIVOR, Carousel Red/Parchment, RAIII, 4-sp, 63k orig. miles, unrestored, #'s match 65 GTO, SURVIVOR, Tri-Power, 4-sp, 79k orig. miles, Capri Gold, orig. paint, top, interior, #'s match 70 GTO Conv, 400, at, A/C, Atoll Blue/Sandlewood/White top, all #'s match 2015 Challenger R/T Plus, hemi, Sublime |
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I'm kind of leaning towards that now after looking at it painted for a few months. A quick smear of sherwin Williams mint,ppg omni and ppg deltron. Not very scientific but gives an idea of how close those I togetto. Other pic,smear at the bottom, original up top. Hard to see in the pics But the original paint does have a touch more blue to it. You're right, they might repaint it try to tweak the color and come out worse.
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86' |
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I think this picture depicts more of what I see. This is up against the back of the hood. It's funny if I hold the original sample against certain parts of the car it looks fine and then if I hold again something else it looks off. Lighting messing with it. Thing is I like the blue original look compared to that green.
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86' |
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I'd leave it as is... looks great.
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That mint turquoise was used on many GM cars in 70. If you Google that paint (and other gm names) you see quite a range of different hues that people have restored their cars with. The only authentic thing I have to go by is my original samples. I see some like mine with more of a green hue while most have the more blue look . One minute I'm satisfied and the next minute I'm not. Just in the time I started this thread I've already been wishy washy on leave it or not. Sounds like most opinions are leave it.
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86' |
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Hard to tell in the pictures, I'd have to see the car in person, in the sunlight, but that looks fairly close, close enough that I wouldn't mess with it.
The deal with the factory lacquer paint and going with a base/clear, especially on a color like this that appears to have some metallic in it, is that it tends to bring out the metallic more, especially in sunlight, and can change the appearance slightly. In my opinion for the better. A lot of these factory colors from the 60's and 70's have about a 10% mix of metallic in them. It's just not seen very well in a single stage lacquer, or enamel for that matter. I haven't used Sherwin products, but I do use BASF 90% of the time, specifically for the very reason you started this post. BASF has the mix formulas down on these old factory colors to a point that they match just about spot on with some original paint cars I've been associated with. Some of the PPG I've used has been a little off at times. Great color, I'd roll with it. |
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Florescent lighting will deceive the eye. Put it out in the sun and compare. Clear coat can mess with the eyes too. The factory job as you know was single stage. The pics in your post # 2 look real good. I would leave it alone
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Depends on the skill (and eye) of your painter. A good one can blend in repairs so they aren't visible.
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I guess I'm really going to have to put it out into the sunlight like was said.. The pics here are taken in my garage with 4' led bulbs overhead and the garage doors up.. It's the second rarest color on the 70 gto ( I think like 700+) and I'd like represent the color to as close to original as possible. I asked a muscle car restoration shop in Canada about a 70 judge they did in mint turquoise . Saw it on the Internet. I emailed him asking how he got the color because in the pics it looked very close,little more blue than mine. He said they had original samples of paint too when tearing it down. They couldn't find a formula that was out there that matched their original paint either . They ended up custom mixing their own and he gave me their formula. Only thing is it's in ppg omni which is their cheaper line, I'd want to use deltron if I went ppg.
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86' |
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That color should be code 34 I believe. Based on my experience with BASF, their formulas have been spot on with OEM type colors. I've been very pleased with them for several years now. If you have that brand available to you I'd highly recommend it. I only go PPG when using a custom (non OEM) color. |
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https://www.hotrod.com/articles/colo...ImageId=781414
This is more what I was hoping for. This is the one they ended up mixing their own color but like I said its omni paint. Ill look around to see if theres a local basf place where I can get a 2 oz sample mix. Maybe chasing my tail since the original is lacquer and now bc,cc. RM BASF code A2265
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86' Last edited by scott70; 04-07-2020 at 08:51 AM. |
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its such a rare color, if leave it alone. There are not gonna be any other GTO's out there to compare you repaint to so id leave it as it is. Looks great
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Frank Szymkowski 1969 GTO Judge Warwick blue/blue, RAIII, 4 speed, tach/gauges, Safe T track, 3.55's, ps and radio. 1971 Torino 351c 4v GT convertible. White on white with black interior 4 speed, shaker, am/fm, ps/pdb, buckets/console, ac. One of 26 made |
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X10 leave it, it looks fantastic and needs to be seen in sunlight to truly evaluate. On my car the only original color (Warwick Blue-which is not its present color) is under the door panels. If I was trying to match it I would have the body shop mix to that.
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Chris D 69 GTO Liberty Blue/dark blue 467, 850 Holley, T2, Edelbrock Dport 310cfm w Ram Air manifolds, HFT 245/251D .561/.594L, T400, 9" w 3.50s 3905lbs 11.59@ 114, 1.57/ 60' |
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I have a car in original, untouched, excellent condition mint turquoise. you are welcome to come down and have a look. I'm in CT.
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Roll your car outside and take some good pictures in different types of light. Compare those to the picture you linked to see if there's any difference. Doing a repaint seems pretty extreme, but if it's something that'll bother you for the rest of your life, maybe it's worth it. Great color BTW, it really pops with the Judge stripes.
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Having a turquoise car myself, I feel your pain. I can never seem to get an accurate or consistent representation of the color on a photograph.
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