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Old 06-03-2016, 11:33 PM
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Default '69....why is it so hard to get "The Judge" stickers in the right place?!?

And I don't even have one....annoys the #@%&!! out of me, though!





or, worse.....



Tell me the factory wasn't so random with the placement.....or the model year? lol

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Old 06-04-2016, 03:59 AM
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So my guess is the first 2 cars are restored with poor decal placement? The second one screams 68 GTO with decals? 1 BAD, 2 BAD, and 3 WORST!!!

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Old 06-04-2016, 06:45 AM
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Same thing happens on a 70...They even had an original fender that had the correct placement to show where it went during the restoration. I guess 99% of the people don't notice anyway. I have seen originals pretty crooked, but the general vicinity was right.
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it messes with my OCD too. lol. I can only figure that the guys putting them on have no clue and probably weren't even born when they originally came out so they have no clue where they go. Do the kits come with placement instructions?

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The white one isn't even a Judge. A nice GTO, with the Judge crap added for resale. I like it more without the phony stripes.

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So many non-Judge out there with Judge stripes and stickers...I even saw a guy with a 1972 Lemans with spoiler/Judge stripes and stickers. I was at a car show a few years back and saw 3 1969 GTO's, all with Judge stuff, all 3 clones.

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The line workers got them in the general vicinity, but there were a lot of variations depending on who was working the line that day.

The 1968 GTO was the first mass produced Pontiac to receive body stickers (on the 1/4 panel), and many times those stickers were crooked, too far forward, or too far backward. Line workers were used to installing die-cast emblems, and those emblems went into punched holes, so alignment wasn't necessary. Starting with the 1968 GTO (which they made a ton of), having a line worker place stickers on the body was something new to them. They didn't measuring anything, they didn't have tape lines to make sure the stickers were straight, they just put them on the body based on where they were instructed to place them. Most of the time, they were fine. Quality Control would have corrected any huge mistakes.

The Judge fender logo sticker was the same way. Original photos of 69 Judges show them in slightly different spots, some even crooked.

1979 Trans Ams were notorious for having shaker scoop stickers too high, too low, too far forward, or too far backward. Wherever they were placed, other side was always the same, so you know it was how an individual was placing the stickers for that shift on the assembly line that day.

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So many non-Judge out there with Judge stripes and stickers...I even saw a guy with a 1972 Lemans with spoiler/Judge stripes and stickers. I was at a car show a few years back and saw 3 1969 GTO's, all with Judge stuff, all 3 clones.
LOL - 70 Tempest cleverly disguised as a 72 Judge.

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And the one that was the topic of another thread.

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I have no issue with people personalizing their cars, but when they are trying to clone something, it takes as much effort to get it wrong as it does to get it right.

So you can imagine what it's like for the other cars out there that aren't being cloned. All you have to do is check out the dealers that sell on eBay and major auctions to see that old cars are commodities and little attention is paid to the integrity of the vehicles.

It's really a microcosm of everything else in life.

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And the one that was the topic of another thread.

a laundry list of wrongs with that car!

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Fugly, What a shame

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Heres one that just showed up on Craigslist...its a 1972 Lemans Judge http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...623566829.html

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Anyone done a 1974 GTO Judge yet?


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here are a couple of the ultra rare Lemans Judges on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...m=331874738633

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...m=112020334685

Heres a Lemans Judge with a super rare 428 RA IV

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...m=231966253644

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All these piece of crap clones are the reason the prices are soft on real cars.

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Doesn't anyone take any pride in having a super nice "Lemans" anymore?

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I do. My 70 rag top.
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Me too!

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All these piece of crap clones are the reason the prices are soft on real cars.
yep...Probably has some effect

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