[takid455]

Met with a couple companies at the PRI show & threw out the idea of making a run of the Tri Y FBody Headers. Similar to Tribal tubes. Since Ron seems to have stopped making these, perhaps this would be a nice offering. Looking to see interest if these were to be made. They would be 304 Stainless, 3" collector with V band option, All TIG welded, two (2) O2 bungs per side (narrow band & wideband for tuning), 1 3/4 dia primaries. O2 bungs would be placed to clear & still be accessible for 6 speed manual transmissions which are larger than any factory offering in this area. Price point would be on par with good modern muscle headers. These will not be cheap & may be one of the more more expensive header options. At small quantities (<100) sets, the $600 price point is unobtainable. These would be over 1200 but under 1800. Polished would be additional. Port shape based on most interest. They would be snug to the floor for low ride height cars, yet ample clearance so they dont hit the floor.

Depending on design direction, I may go the length of 3D scanning the body/ chassis, powertrain & existing header mock up so the deliverable will be all CAD designed.

I've played with 2nd Gen platform & various driveline configurations for decades. Used cheap 3 tube heads, Dougs, Hookers, Headman, Tribal tubes, modern engine swap headers, ect thus familiar with the nuances of each.

Looking to see if there's enough interest to make the R&D & investment worthwhile to provide a very high quality & excellent fitting piece to the market with reasonable delivery time.

You can email me directly at transam_engineer at yahoo dot com.

Had to break up the email as last time I used in it traditional format I received a few scammers.

[takid455]

Looks like its crickets on this idea. Maybe another time.

[Elarson]

I just found this post since I spend most of my time on the Race and Street sections.

I'm intrigued. Making a CAD model and snugging them to the floor is very attractive. Price is reasonable if they are a terrific fit (and you can prove it with CAD model cross-sections) although a lot of the potential customers will balk.

My selfish requests:

Fit around the Canton T-shaped road race pan.
Tuck the right side up and assume that the oil filter has been remotely located.
Round port.

I'd think if you make a CAD model, the price could be significantly reduced by having the tubes CNC bent, rather than all of the usual hand-fitting and welding small pieces together.

Eric

[takid455]

Excellent input!
RH sides always hung low on these. Remote filter assumption will be taken in consideration but not mandatory as that's a small percentage of builds. I know some race applications would like something off the self vs custom made. Would be nice to incorporate all builds, but business decision need to be made also. This has a min. 50k+ initial investment thus need the initial run to capture large audiences. Not sure is CNC tubing is an option due to some of the bend complexities. Looked into CNC tube bending in the past for other projects. Other inputs that would be in consideration. Will review that option though. Drivability & fit vs all out max effort. Obviously, we don't want to sacrifice power , but if it means capturing more audience (street vs drag) , I'm willing to give up a little power. Percentage should be small however. D vs RD port is solely be based on audience again. While I'm an enthusiast, I want to recoup the investment in a reasonable time frame. That is the overall factor as to which version is made. CAD & 3D modeling/ scanning will be utilized for this project.

[b-man]

I’ve copied this thread from the original that was posted in the Lobby: https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...=1#post6393456

[JLMounce]

1st or 2nd gen? If the headers are of sufficient quality and fit as described, I would be interested in a 1st gen D-port set.

[tom s]

IMHO,have a set custom made on a car that has all original suspension and a stick shift.THEN have a jig made from them.That way you would know they would fit pretty much all cars.If the jig was made from a worn out suspension car there could be issues.Being around Tyree most of my young life I saw what issues could arrive especially stick shift cars.Good luck with your project.Tom

[Skip Fix]

Price is less than the SS copy of the Hookers I had made!.

[65madgoat]

Just saw this post.

I have Dougs and use a Canton road race pan. Had to modify a tube to clear the pan. So that being taken into consideration a plus as well as whatever can be done for better clearance at steering box.

Would love this but honestly there are so few first gen guys out there for me to see enough demand. Then D port vs round port. 3" collector vs 3.5" and you just won't get enough needing or wanting 1 type to make investment worth it.

More first gen people going the LS route and spending $1500 on stainless headers than true Pontiac guys needing this unfortunately I feel. Might have more of a market these days with 2nd gen guys.

[mach flyer]

I’m in for a set for 2nd gen….

[takid455]

These would be for 2nd gens. As stated, I feel more 1st gen would go LS / LT. I build & own more 2nd gens than 1st gens thus reason for decision.

Tom - Model would be a newer/ fresh example. Perhaps even slightly lowered w/ shorter body bushings. That way it'll fit a stock version. Care will be taken to fit a selection of oil pans & transmissions. Also stay away from fire way for hydraulic clutch like (6 speed swaps).

[Half-Inch Stud]

O and D versions for sure. O will sell lots.
Common config for GTO and FB and G-body should be possible in Try-Y. Heck G-body would sell a plenty.

[Bobs78TA]

I have an interest in your project for the 2nd gen with round ports. hope you can generate enough interest to bring these to fruition.

[Lee]

There is a guy who used to work for Stan's (Stan's now out of business) who is making some of Stan's sbc tri-Y's again.

I'll have to dig through my notes, it was a few months ago when I talked with him. He would be interested in making a Pontiac header, if there is enough interest.

[LM93]

I'd love a set of 304SS tri-y headers. I've read a lot of people complain about ground clearance on their street cars with 4-1 headers, and 304 isn't going to rust out anytime soon.

[dataway]

Years ago I was working on a CAD model to see if I could have the software route header pipes if I gave it the starting points at the head, and various off the shelf bends to work with, ending in a collector that I could drag to the desire location. Each section of the tube was given "constraints" to determine its degrees of freedom of movement .. to simulate how I would be able to manipulate sections in real life.

Made this short video of Autodesk Inventor ... very primitive, no application in mind, just a proof of concept. As it turned out I bought a tube bender so I didn't need to worry about piecing together with off the shelf bends, but it was a fun experiment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEX7FQJ1nNU

[takid455]

Thats pretty slick. I'll see if Solidworks has a feature like that.