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Default Sunfire Red? Convince me.

It kind of looks pink, I'm all for originality, but not Mary Kay...

Should we just go with another red?

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If sunfire red is original to your car, I would not change it. It is a rare color that was almost cancelled because of warranty claims.
edit: It actually was cancelled and brought back about 30 days later due to dealer protest, according to Jim Wangers.


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Old 04-02-2013, 03:31 AM
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If sunfire red is original to your car, I would not change it. It is a rare color that was almost cancelled because of warranty claims.
edit: It actually was cancelled and brought back about 30 days later due to dealer protest, according to Jim Wangers.
Awesome color. Curious to see how it looks with some sunlight on it.

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If it's the Original color of your car what does the paint look like under the trunk lid or jam areas?
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I've seen this on a '64 before, it is a unique color and if you are going for original go for it. The '64 I saw was owned by the GM of what used to be the Paddock here in Indiana. It is not pink it has more of an orange hue IMO.

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Back in the late 70's a guy here had a Sunfire red '64 GTO with a black interior and a set of Cragar S/S wheels. Sharpest car in town. If I had a '64 and had to pick a color to paint it, I would choose sunfire red over any of the other factory colors.

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No where near Mary Kay pink, The kind of pink he called it is not printable here...

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It's more of a salmon color. I had a Sunfire hardtop back in 73 with a white vinyl top and parchment interior. If I got another 64 I would paint it that color just because you don't see it at every car show you go to.

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It is an awesome color!

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my first 64 for was sunfire love it going to new 64 that color

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I agree with everyone else; it is a rare color so please put it on the car.

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Reminds me of the '61 Dawnfire Mist color.

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Not exactly my favorite but neither is the Pinehurst Green that was the original color of my GTO.

Definitely not a Mary Kay pink.

Agree that it is more a salmon color.

Buick also had it in '64, called theirs Coral Mist.

You can google all sorts of nice pix of '64 Rivieras and Pontiacs in this color.

It might be less common than some other colors but not exactly rare. Never heard the story of the cancellation before.

It wasn't wildly popular, that would account for why it was a 1 year only color.

I like original and that includes colors. I want my car to look like it came out of the mid '60s. A Sunfire Red '64 will stand out in a crowd a lot more than the more common Cameo White and Grenadier Red '64s and will certainly look like it was from that era even if the medium metallic color choices look more dated today. Some want a more updated look, including more fashionable modern colors. Choice is up to you.

Personally, I think the Sunfire Red pops best with a Parchment interior rather than Black.

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Not exactly my favorite but neither is the Pinehurst Green that was the original color of my GTO.

Definitely not a Mary Kay pink.

Agree that it is more a salmon color.

Buick also had it in '64, called theirs Coral Mist.

You can google all sorts of nice pix of '64 Rivieras and Pontiacs in this color.

It might be less common than some other colors but not exactly rare. Never heard the story of the cancellation before.

It wasn't wildly popular, that would account for why it was a 1 year only color.

I like original and that includes colors. I want my car to look like it came out of the mid '60s. A Sunfire Red '64 will stand out in a crowd a lot more than the more common Cameo White and Grenadier Red '64s and will certainly look like it was from that era even if the medium metallic color choices look more dated today. Some want a more updated look, including more fashionable modern colors. Choice is up to you.

Personally, I think the Sunfire Red pops best with a Parchment interior rather than Black.
I agree with you on the Parchment interior.

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There was a Sunfire red '64 coupe running around town here awhile back, and it looked really sharp. Sort of a coppery metallic but leaning to salmon or coral hues. Not even close to pink. It looked waaay sharper than grenadier red, IMO. I say go for it and keep it original. Sunfire Red is the "Iris Mist" for '64....a rare and unique color.

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There's NO grey area. You either love it or you hate it. It's unique, go with it!

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There's NO grey area. You either love it or you hate it. It's unique, go with it!
kinda OT but whats the color of your 59? I had a Starchief same color combo. I think it was called sunset glo or something like that.

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Interesting cowl tag.
It also has the number '1' in the ACC codes - 1W

Don't see that very often?




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John, in '64, the Pontiac Plant always coded the "1" for the Group 1 Accessory codes.

The Kansas City Plant did not.

The Pontiac Plant also coded each one separately, example, I have a pic showing:

1E-1X-1T-2Y-2P-2T-2V-3B
5N-5W

(used 2 lines on the Plate, didn't all fit on 1 line!).

At Kansas City, they lumped the codes together so they fit more compactly on the Plate, such as this example (also have the pic):

E 2KLPR 3B 5NW

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Thank, John.

I must usually see Kansas City ones.
Most I've seen look like your last example.


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