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Old 02-06-2018, 09:02 AM
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Default Low mile '61 pulls right on braking.

44,117 mi car sat unused for many years. Part of resurection was wheel cyl rebuild about 25 yrs ago. I had new Delco cyl kits then.......... About 5 yrs ago, it began to pull heavily left.....put up with that for several years, then replaced hoses from frame to backing plate, Now pulls right........!!!!!but much less noticeable.

Can I replace wheel cyls without removing backing plate from spindles.????

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Old 02-06-2018, 10:37 PM
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Can I replace wheel cyls without removing backing plate from spindles.????
PJH
Nope. (Unless you have some really creative tools!)

PJ, time for some New Hoses and Wheel Cylinders... also run a bunch of fresh fluid thru the lines when everything's apart...could ALSO be blockage in the hardlines.

Oh, and how about posting a pic of this mo-sheen on this thread?

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Old 02-06-2018, 11:31 PM
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Mr Heck,

Not sure how a 61 Pontiac wheel cylinder / backing plates are assembled, but my 65 GTO with 43,000+ miles was pulling bad.

All the OEM brake wheel cylinders were wet, especially one up front was leaking bad.

I sent all 4 cylinders to be stainless sleeved with new seals. I wanted to keep the factory original numbered Delco Moraine cylinders the car came with.

The car stops perfectly straight every time.

Backing plates stayed on the car. Just removed the steel brake line / hose and the two bolts securing the cylinder to plate. Easy.

Good luck, Chris.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:35 AM
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60sstuff, Good tip and feedback on the sleeving. Specifically who did the job?

Remember that A- and B-body Pontiacs have a LOT of differences...hence why we call them DarkSiders, LOL.

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Old 02-09-2018, 01:39 AM
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60sstuff, Good tip and feedback on the sleeving. Specifically who did the job?
That would be “White Post Restoration” in VA.

I had all 4 OEM wheel cylinders and my Original master cylinder, bored and stainless sleeved.

Never have to worry about corrosion issues again. This allowed me to keep all the Factory components in place.

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Old 09-09-2019, 10:24 AM
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After turning 80 this past Jan., I have slowed from car related. Last thing I did was replace the sand cups in my 427 Chev powered boat about a month ago. I intend to pull timing cover from Donnas 63 as it surges oddly when slowing for a traffic lite or similar situations.....rebuiilder put std. shift bolt in the flex plate, locking up the engine......sold it for that reason.......he may have left the thrust plate off the camshaft.

Per picture request...........here are several, I didnt realize I have no under hood picts until now. This has '69 428 block w/455 crank & pistons. Early 2 barrel camshaft, lotsa torque, Edelbrock w/66 421 AFB, long brand exh. from 'Bird & 70 TH-400 w/towing kit, 3.08 Saf-T-Track..........We use the '61 wagon in most of the local parades, haul machine guns on the tailgate.......may be the only city/town in the US to have such in their parades.

I replaced both sets of front cyls & hoses, flushed the front lines w/syn. fluid. Still pulls slightly to the right......I am going to change the L drum for a 63 to get the right hand threads. I will have to hunt another 63-4 for the right side..........I have 4 parts cars in the south 40...!!!!!

Farmingtron Dragway shot , maybe 2010, of me in '62 SD car against really interesting '62 Ford. It is a last minit attempt by Ford to salvage something in the '62 season; a 406 eng w/2 Holleys on, glass front end, aluminum bumpers, cars is one of 10 made, all had one blue seat & one red......???.....this one ran 2 car lengths behind stock 405/421.

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Old 09-09-2019, 11:44 AM
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Nice wagon Mr. Heck!

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Old 09-09-2019, 09:53 PM
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Very nice wagon. I am kind of partial ! If you figure out the pulling issue please report back. I have been dealing with the same thing off an on for a couple years.
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Cool shot! If it were in black & white someone could mistake it for back in the day.


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