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Old 01-13-2011, 01:44 AM
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Just got these pictures from a Guy on the H.A.M.B. board. He took these at Bonneville.

Blown Tempest 4 cyl in what he called a flat fenderd "Jeep"

I see a Vertex magneto, 4-71 Blower, looks like a Hilborn 2 port injector, & cant tell if that is an Edelbrock or Kaufman head. Has slanted plugs & a nice finned valve cover. Nice set of zoomies!
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Old 01-13-2011, 06:34 AM
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Very cool Kieth!
Bonneville has some of the best cars. They tend to think out of the box a lot more.

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Old 01-14-2011, 04:14 AM
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... Bonneville has some of the best cars...
That's sure true, although I'd have worded it "top speed racing...". The same sort of ingenuity/inventiveness is evident whether the site be Bonneville, El Mirage, Maxton, or Loring. [Excuse me for getting "picky" about the jargon used- as I prepare to immerse myself and my hemi in this sport]
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mechanickeith, That is Roger Manson from Canada. He told me he was doing some running at Bonneville. Thanks Rusty

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Yes this is Roger and Marlene Manson from Canada. Their little 4/71 blown 4 banger Pontiac ran 189.34 at Bonneville Speed Week 2010. In drag trim this thing runs mid 9s about 145 mph. These are just a few photos that I have. Their goal was to run 200 mph. They are in process of making a few mods, and will go 200 plus I'm sure. This is my first post here at Perfomance Years and won't be the last. I own a 62 Le Mans that will soon have half of a Weiand Drag Star manifold on it, and a header. Plus a few other goodies.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:59 PM
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SO COOL!!!! Thanks Rusty & Drag Star!!! I thought by the Guy's discription, it was the Manson car out of Canada but couldnt tell from the pics. Thanks for the other pics. I love to see anything that shows different uses for our little 4 cyls!!!

WELCOME!!! DragStar!!! Love the Avatar!!! Eight the hard way!!! That was a fantastic use for the Tempest 4 cyls!!!

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Here are a few more pictures of blown 195s. I have to scan some pictures from a recent car club visit to a local racers shop. Enjoy and share what you have.
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Here is some pics I took of the M/T Tempest 2 & 4 cyl motors at the NHRA Museum last year.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...ickey+Thompson

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...ickey+Thompson

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Sorry for the poor picture quality. I went on local speed shop tour with car club, Twin City Idlers. No history on this interesting piece, other than its out of Ohio? The owner plans to insall into a dragmaster chassis for future display?
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Is that blower manifold from the M/T catalog?

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Jack, just about everything on that motor screams M/T!!! Intake, valley cover with breathers, water fill on the back of the head, water venting pet cock on the front of the intake. That motor has a LOT of run time on it. Look at the buildup of dirt on the bottom of the blower, on the lower part of the timing cover, on the inside of the lower crank pulley. Shure would like some more info/history on this motor!!!! I like the old style barn door injector & the tach driven off of the front of the crank. Vertex magneto, remote oil filter on the right front & looks like a water pump or alternator was driven off of the blower pully also. Also like the tin cans covering the ends of the Zoomie!!

DragStarLeMans, Can ya help us out here?????? This looks like a lost piece of M/T history. Possibly out of one of his dragsters??

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Hey pontiac jack, I have a manifold like that one. And a front cover and blower hub, that I purchased from Fritz. Thanks Rusty

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I would give you more info if I had it. The current owner of this stated he bought it when racing in Ohio, other than that nothing? We did have nearly 70 people at his shop that day? I plan to ask him plenty of questions about it when we cross paths again. Here are a few more pictures from that shop tour.
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Rusty4cyl,
I hate to put you on the spot! How much did you pay for the M/T parts in the previous post? I have watched a few misc. breathers go for silly money on the Evil site?
Just curious. Thanks Craig

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DragStarLeMans, Can ya help us out here?????? This looks like a lost piece of M/T history. Possibly out of one of his dragsters??
Ditto that... was thinking along those lines

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Drag Star Le Mans, I bought the stuff back in the 70's I have no idea anymore. I had the holes modified to use on a 65 and up head. I used it on two motors and now use a sheetmetal one that sit's on top like a V8 Thanks Rusty

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WOW!!! I have a woodie now!!! Look at all the breathers, hats, scoops & port injectors!!! Have been looking for a 2 port hilborn or enough parts & pieces to put one together. I have one but its damaged beyond repair. Also have been looking for one of the M/T manifolds as pictured so I can lay a blower on its side under the hood. All that I have found have been beyond my bank account!! Just WOW!!

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I went on another car club shop tour today, look at this gem! This is at Jim Greens shop in Monroe Washington. His shop tour was real cool, great guy with lots of good storys. He loves the big old Ford cammer engines. Jim is also loves Pontiacs, he owned 19 (yes nineteen) 67 Pontiacs at one point.
Zoom on the first pic below the rocker cover. There are pictures of the car were the engine used to hang.
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I have a little more info on the bitchin blown 4 with all the M/T parts. It is located in Tacoma, WA at Bucky Austins shop. www.Buckyaustinracing.com look through here real good to see some cool old rails, and speed parts.
The story I got from Jim Green was that the engine was bought out of a storage, and donated to Bucky to add to his museum. He has stuff that just makes you drool. Bucky plans to restore a dragmaster chassis, and install the 4 banger. Most of his cars are in running condition and used at various cackle-fests. I hope he gets this little thing running so we all can hear this piece of history run. It is not known at this point if there is any relationship to Mickey Thompson and the engine. I am going to try to contact Bucky and get him to display the engine and chassis at the GTOAA in Portland. This will be a long shot, but maybe possible???
Here are a few pics of Buckys toys, and a more couple odd ones. Maybe you have seen these before? If not look close at the center exhaust ports. That is said to be Sir Jack Brabham in the sweater. Enjoy!
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Those angled spark plugs in the 4cyl head in the 4th pic? There was a discussion before about one of the M/T v-8's with angled plugs.

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