[64speed]

I know where there are three 67 GTO’s sitting in the woods complete hoods and doors closed been there for decades. I am quasi friends with the owner so I called him and asked him if he still had them. He said he did but that Mother Earth was reclaiming them and the only thing worth any money was the engine and trans. He seemed a little reluctant at selling as he has Pontiac projects of his own but I asked him what he would take for one. He said 1500 for a complete down to the ac compressor 67 400 from one of the GTO and I had to pull it. Are they really that scarce/valuable?

[dataway]

Why oh why do people let this happen to these old cars.

[wovenweb]

Only if the date and other codes match up for another vehicle (other than partial VIN) and you the buyer have a thing for code correct parts.

[Tom Vaught]

The 67 "GTO" block would not be the hot ticket for real performance as it would have two bolt mains but drilled for 4 bolt mains. Weaker deal vs the 67 2-barrel type engine with solid not drilled main webs and regular 2 bolt main caps.

A 67 4-bolt main drilled block has really good cylinder support and main web support EXCEPT when they drilled those extra holes for the 4-bolt mains
and put 2 bolt caps on the block.

Hot set-up is add SPLAYED bolt 4-bolt main caps to a 2 bolt main 67 2-barrel block.
Tom V.

[74Grandville]

Sounds like he’s not ready to sell....


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[Chief of the 60's]

If you are going to spend $1500.00 and want something good for performance, offer it to this guy > https://www.ebay.com/itm/CAL-1969-PO...5Z8WiO&vxp=mtr

You'll thank me later.

[Mister Pontiac]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Hot set-up is add SPLAYED bolt 4-bolt main caps to a 2 bolt main 67 2-barrel block.
Tom V.

Interesting. Hadn't thought of this idea before...

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Mister Pontiac

Interesting. Hadn't thought of this idea before...

That was the way Marty Palbykin's 1967 406 engine was done. Good Splayed "PRO GRAM STEEL CAPS" added to that block. 1600 + HP for 3 years and the car weighed 2885 lbs and ran over 200 mph with Cast Iron Heads and Factory Original 67 2-bolt Main Block.(before caps added)

Tom V.

[242177P]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

... as it would have two bolt mains but drilled for 4 bolt mains.

I haven't seen a 67 with those "empty holes".
If I had to guess, that started around 69/70?

[bendutro]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

The 67 "GTO" block would not be the hot ticket for real performance as it would have two bolt mains but drilled for 4 bolt mains. Weaker deal vs the 67 2-barrel type engine with solid not drilled main webs and regular 2 bolt main caps.

A 67 4-bolt main drilled block has really good cylinder support and main web support EXCEPT when they drilled those extra holes for the 4-bolt mains
and put 2 bolt caps on the block.

Hot set-up is add SPLAYED bolt 4-bolt main caps to a 2 bolt main 67 2-barrel block.
Tom V.

My Fremont built '67 non-HO 400 had regular ol' 2 bolt mains with nothing drilled for 4 bolts. I just had the middle three replaced with ProGramm caps. Block was stock as a rock and untouched internally for 50 years. I scraped sheared nylon teeth out of the oil pan.

[gene simmons]

Originally Posted by 242177P

I haven't seen a 67 with those "empty holes".
If I had to guess, that started around 69/70?

None of my 67 blocks had been drilled or tapped. I did have a late 69 and a 1970 block that was.

[gene simmons]

Originally Posted by 64speed

He said 1500 for a complete down to the ac compressor 67 400 from one of the GTO and I had to pull it. Are they really that scarce/valuable?

$1500 for possible good engine+splayed main caps/hardware etc= purchase a IA II block.

[NeighborsComplaint]

I thought you already had a motor?

[Nicks67GTO]

No way in hell am I paying 1500 for something laying in a rotting car that needs a complete rebuild. I just sold a board member a darn good running 455/6x4/performer/qjet/hei engine for $1500 bucks. Its old and mild but ran great. That guy is trying to take you for a ride.

I paid $75 bucks for a complete 67 2bbr engine from a guy on here about 5 years ago. Sold the timing cover and crank, scrapped the heads, and just about everything else and made money on the deal keeping the block. You should be able to find a non 557 400 for a few hundred bucks and do the same.

There is nothing magical about a 67 400

[ERIC AULL]

I used an IAII block.....not at all concerned with originality.....plan for some machine work in the budget...but you would need to do that anyway. Just my 2 cents...

[chiphead]

1500 is crazy money for a rusty 400 block and heads. Everything but the bare castings will go in the trash. You can usually find bare blocks from $200-500, and i wouldn't pay more than $300 for something that wasn't STD bore and either magged or guaranteed to pass mag. Locally there is a 455 block that needs two sleeves, and the guy wants $600 for it. There is a mismatched 400 and a stock 428 on the local CL for $1800 and $1900 respectively. These guys either live in fantasy island or its sucker bait.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Nicks67GTO

There is nothing magical about a 67 400

Except that a non-drilled 2-Bolt Main 67 block with cast iron heads was strong enough to run 6 second times at high boost for 3 years without breaking vs other 400 blocks (like the 557) that would kick its guts out at 500 HP in most Trans AMs.

Tom V.

[STEELCITYFIREBIRD]

I find that often times less information listed leads to the best deals on car/engine parts on craigslist.

[Nicks67GTO]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Except that a non-drilled 2-Bolt Main 67 block with cast iron heads was strong enough to run 6 second times at high boost for 3 years without breaking vs other 400 blocks (like the 557) that would kick its guts out at 500 HP in most Trans AMs.

Tom V.

So my 67 2bbl splayed main .030 over block 433 is good for 6 second runs....good to know. No one here is trying to do that. Just about any non 557 2 bolt 400 block is going to take 600hp right? That covers 99% of everyone in the hobby. My point stands.

[tom s]

Did I make a wrong turn?Is this the street or race section?Tom