[trishieldchief]

Originally Posted by comanchefirebird

For wiper motors, contact Danny Tate at Wiper Works
ph 931 598-9573
wiperman57@msn.com

He does very good work on restoring wiper motors
He is in Sewanee TN

Steve

Danny Tate died last year.

[6804gto]

Originally Posted by goa484

Check the procedure to bench test the wiper motor in the service manual. It's a little confusing and youll need some jumper wires but once I worked through it I was able to isolate my problem to a bad ground and didnt have to replace it.

Originally Posted by trishieldchief

Danny Tate died last year.

Sorry to hear that...

[kyle_blake]

incredible! wow , 4:33!

awesome!

[6804gto]

Swapped out the old school cragers for a more original look of the ralley 2 wheels. I wasn't a fan at all of the gold cragers the previous owner had on the car.

[300deluxe]

Originally Posted by 6804gto

Swapped out the old school cragers for a more original look of the ralley 2 wheels. I wasn't a fan at all of the gold cragers the previous owner had on the car.

That pic reminds me of the Judge I owned in the 90's. It was Sierra Yellow, but mine had black interior and an automatic. I sold the car to a guy in Iowa in 2003.

[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by Judge273

I thought special order axle on RAIII begat a 3:90...special order on RAIV begat a 4:33? How is this verified on documentation?

Cool Judge BTW!

Great question.
In 68 the axle ratio is found in box 37 of the BHC (S=4.33).
By 1970 the format changed for the dealer invoice copy and that info doesn't appear to be included with any of the documents provided by PHS. It is listed on the Broadcast Sheet though, so if the OP is lucky enough to discover that in his car then he can check box 29 where "XM" should be listed (or XK if 3.90) The Broadcast sheet also has the options listed with their codes about half way down the sheet. GU9 is 4.33 and GU8 is 3.90. From what I can tell 3.90 and 4.33 are the only two special order axle choices for the Ram Air III engine.

If the engine was a RA IV, then the codes would be academic since the only special order axle ratio choice is 4.33 so the only documentation required to validate would be the 362 AXL-SP-ORD found on the invoice copy.

For the subject car....we know it came with a 3.90 or 4.33. The axle code stamped on the axle tube is XM and the julian date code is 259 (Sept 16th). The invoice date is 11/4/69 (308 julian date) so the axle predates the car by 49 days. That would seem to be in the correct range IMO. (For sake of comparison.....my 4.33 axle, which I believe to be original to the car is 39 days before the invoice date). So, the 4.33 axle in this '70 Judge is not incorrect based on what we know at this time.

Someday, if the OP happens to pull the cover and peek inside, there should be some stamps on the ring gear. 39 9 for the ratio.....GM something and then the year code. Here is a photo of what the stamps look like on my ring gear.

[Ram4king]

Originally Posted by 6804gto

Swapped out the old school cragers for a more original look of the ralley 2 wheels. I wasn't a fan at all of the gold cragers the previous owner had on the car.

I would be interested in your gold cragars if you sell them. 267-246-6903

[6804gto]

Originally Posted by PurelyGTO68

Great question.
In 68 the axle ratio is found in box 37 of the BHC (S=4.33).
By 1970 the format changed for the dealer invoice copy and that info doesn't appear to be included with any of the documents provided by PHS. It is listed on the Broadcast Sheet though, so if the OP is lucky enough to discover that in his car then he can check box 29 where "XM" should be listed (or XK if 3.90) The Broadcast sheet also has the options listed with their codes about half way down the sheet. GU9 is 4.33 and GU8 is 3.90. From what I can tell 3.90 and 4.33 are the only two special order axle choices for the Ram Air III engine.

If the engine was a RA IV, then the codes would be academic since the only special order axle ratio choice is 4.33 so the only documentation required to validate would be the 362 AXL-SP-ORD found on the invoice copy.

For the subject car....we know it came with a 3.90 or 4.33. The axle code stamped on the axle tube is XM and the julian date code is 259 (Sept 16th). The invoice date is 11/4/69 (308 julian date) so the axle predates the car by 49 days. That would seem to be in the correct range IMO. (For sake of comparison.....my 4.33 axle, which I believe to be original to the car is 39 days before the invoice date). So, the 4.33 axle in this '70 Judge is not incorrect based on what we know at this time.

Someday, if the OP happens to pull the cover and peek inside, there should be some stamps on the ring gear. 39 9 for the ratio.....GM something and then the year code. Here is a photo of what the stamps look like on my ring gear.

Found the build sheet under rear seat springs tonight. Has 4:33 GU9 & XM in box 29

[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by 6804gto

Found the build sheet under rear seat springs tonight. Has 4:33 GU9 & XM in box 29

Fantastic find! Thanks for the update.

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[johnta1]

AWESOME!



Congrats.

[Judge273]

Very cool find! Love to see pix of the rear!

[6804gto]

Originally Posted by Judge273

Very cool find! Love to see pix of the rear!

Just pulled the cover tonight..
Looks like the original ring gear

[Judge273]

Great pix! Nov 69 Judge get the black PMD caps too.

[thepontiacman]

Great looking Judge! Unusual color makes it stand out. original stripes will look good. Congrats on the find.

[goat1964-2004]

Very nice! Love the color.

[brians]

That is great!
Closest I have ever found for build sheets is a pile of what use to be a build sheet.
(and a few times a dead mouse in that pile)

[1965gp]

Great car and history. I agree that the original color stripes will give it a find shiny touch.

I like the later mirrors- I put a set on my 70 GTO and they look great

[1965gp]

Originally Posted by 1965gp

Great car and history. I agree that the original color stripes will give it a find shiny touch.

I like the later mirrors- I put a set on my 70 GTO and they look great

*That was supposed to say finishing touch

[02Hawk]

it was interesting to notice on the Bill of Sale that the original purchaser traded a 68 GTO convertible for the Judge

[6804gto]

Originally Posted by 02Hawk

it was interesting to notice on the Bill of Sale that the original purchaser traded a 68 GTO convertible for the Judge

Yea I noticed the trade in also when I first looked at the bill of sale.
Then I got curious and looked at the vin # on the 68 . Reason being I have a 68 convertible also that was sold New at the same dealership and thought maybe it was the same car. Not the case thou! Different car