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Old 09-03-2006, 06:09 PM
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There are places that cut the vintage wheels apart, make a custom offset and then weld the wheels back together.

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Old 10-16-2006, 09:56 PM
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Default Vintage 15X6 American Racing Equipment "D"

Also refered to as crows foot. Made to fit 65 and later Corvette with disc brakes. Wheel is different than the reproduction D.
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:15 PM
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A problem with the TT'D's is that no back spacing options are offered. I have 7" wide 15's and I can't put the wider rear axle in my 65 GTO without tire rub on the quarters. Narrow axles in anything but 8.2 are difficult to find.

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Old 10-18-2006, 07:39 PM
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They made the wheels for the tires avalable at the time. The car manufactures did not design the cars for wheels and tires that were not avalable yet. They made a 15X8.5, it was probably used for drag slicks. A lot of the bigger tires avalable in the 60s were 14 inch, not 15s. I have a US TT wheel that is 15X8.5, it fits on the rear of a 1970 Lemans, if I try to fit the wheel on any Pontiacs built in the 60s, it sticks out of the wheel well.

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Any one have input on the safety issues running the vintage mags?We have all had or heard of these things loosening or coming off. I seen it more than once myself. Is the risk maybee greater with the unilug design uposed to specific bolt paterns? Is an american a safer better quality wheel?Are the 2 piece look alikes junk? The new torque thrust may not be the real thing but supossidly no safty issues.Ihave a few sets of americans and the wanabees but i may be affraid to run them.Maybee i worry to much but add horsepower a manual trans and some traction and?The scariest part to me is the quarter panel you know the panel you just just spent 40 hours blocking sanding on. the panel they dont reproduce, the panel that makes your car stand out because its the straightest one in the field.I know theres one member with a very nice 68 conv. that knows what its like.

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Old 10-19-2006, 12:12 AM
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Why would the vintage wheels loosen any worse than the reproduction wheels? Most of them use the same lug nuts as the reproduction wheels. What will the reproduction wheels look like when they are 40 years old? Will they look as good as the vintage Americans? Put a reproduction wheel next to an original wheel and see which one looks like the better quality wheel. Anybody can run out and buy a repop wheel. It takes some work to get the vintage wheels.

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Old 10-19-2006, 12:25 AM
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Awesome info Ken. I should have kept the magnesiums I had...

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Old 10-26-2006, 03:54 PM
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Question Torq Thrust D on 67' GTO.

I like the looks of this wheel. Went to the Summit site and found that the 15 x 7 wheel has a 3.750 inch backspace. These wheels would be for a 67' GTO. What size tire can be run on these particular wheels without any rubbing/clearance problems? I would like to run 235x60 Goodrich Radial T/A's if they fit properly. I think my factory Rally's have a 4.375 in. backspace and I'm wondering what difference the 3.75 in. backspace will make. Tahnx.

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I like the looks of this wheel. Went to the Summit site and found that the 15 x 7 wheel has a 3.750 inch backspace. These wheels would be for a 67' GTO. What size tire can be run on these particular wheels without any rubbing / clearance problems? I would like to run 235x60 Goodrich Radial T/A's if they fit properly. I think my factory Rally's have a 4.375 in. backspace and I'm wondering what difference the 3.75 in. backspace will make. Tahnx.
It means the tire you take off the ralley and put on the D will be about 5/8" closer to the fender lip.

04.375" offset ralley
- 3.750" offset TTD
=0.625"

In any event, do yourself a favor and consider ANY other tire than Radial TAs LOL

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Old 11-13-2006, 07:22 PM
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I took a lug nut without a washer on it and put it in a few different wheels. On the American wheels, the end of the lug nuts go past the flange without the washer. It does not on the other brands. The washer is required, when you buy the lug nuts, they sell the washer seperate. The earler wheels that use the peanut lugs don't use the washer, the lug nut does not stick out past the flange.

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Why is this thread a "sticky"?

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Hey Ken,
What do you make of this TorqThrust?? Its American Racing but the attachment for the center cone isnt there. They say American Racing Equipment on the back.
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:57 AM
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I believe its a T-70R.
I have the plain T-70 wheels.


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Jeff,
Are those American Racing??
BTW what size rotor are you running?
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:41 AM
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Don,
That's a rear hat style rotor from a 77-79 Caddy it fits on the original 64 hub. Its part of the old style Scarebird disc brake conversion (the best!).
The wheels are vintage American T-70 I now have after market center spinners I bought on E-Bay.
I lucked out and picked up five wheels. The spare didn't balance well but its in the trunk anyhow.

Since my 462 install I take my car up to 145 mph. So I'm switching to stock steel chrome rims. I just don't like going that fast on old aluminum wheels even though they are as smooth as glass.

That rim you have is rare. Terry at AKH might be interested in it.
http://akhwheels.com/


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Hi Jeff,
Thanks for the link. I just purchased some brackets from Scarebird and cant wait to assemble the setup.
Any problems with yours?
Im actually going to run the TorqThrusts up front on my Goat with 15x7 black steel wheel in the back with those new Firestone Drag Slicks.
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Tri-Y-Headers by Tribal Tubes w/ Goerlich Mufflers
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Don,
My Scarebird brackets worked like a charm.
Actually there's nothing wrong with my American wheels. I wish they were hub centric though.
I'm going to see if I can make a reducer ring that will fit my 3" hubs.

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Does American racing or anybody for that matter make a center ring to convert American Racing wheels to hub centric configuration?

Thank you


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You will have to check your measurments , but I found these. Maybe something here will work. I imagine it would be some of the ones at the bottom of the list with a 3" hub bore. Bill

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...2543_-1_152701

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Thank you

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Old 12-27-2007, 03:32 PM
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Thanks Bill, but I decided to go with new steel chrome rims.
I'm going to e-bay the Americans. They're nice wheels I just don't like going real fast on 40 year old aluminum wheels.


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