[Baron Von Zeppelin]

The prefix on the Invoice ID is PPB (262655)
P = Dealer Order - or - Customer Ordered through dealer.
P = Pontiac Plant
B = Approved Private Bank Line of Credit (how the dealer paid PMD for car)

Doubtful that very many WW5's were dealer ordered for inventory on their sales lot.
Most likely a very very large percentage were hand picked special orders placed by customers. The WW5 option instantly made them very expensive cars for their sales class.

If you find your build sheet , it can usually tell if it was a customer special order.
I only have 3 WW5 B-sheets , all 3 say XXX CUSTOMER ORDER .
Would easily bet yours was a hand picked customer ordered car.

The window of time for others that may possibly be priced like yours is only about 2.5 weeks. And that could shorten as we get more examples.
Right now it looks like a window from 11/24 - 12/11

Any Lemans Hdtp or GTO Hdtp in that time span would provide example.
I don't have any others on hand in that time span.

Would be glad to see any other WW5 Invoices you have.
Send me a PM.
Thanks !

[The Boss]

So I owned 2 of the 4 known 4-speeds w/air & at the same time - well I'll be damned!

[Lloyd-TX]

Hey BVZ - you've got mail (2) . . .

[indiangiver 68]

A couple of pics
On ebay
Mike

[pggto]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...m=321812817893

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by indiangiver 68

A couple of pics
Mike

Hey Mike, any chance you could tell what the Body Build Date is - next to the left rivet on the trim tag ?

And the body number next to that ?
Looks like it might something like maybe ... 012669

Thanks if you can help on that.
Might come in handy somewhere down the line since yours is the earliest so far.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Went through the documents that Lloyd had and we found 1 more WW5 that was not previously listed here.

All we have on it is the Buildsheet with the VIN scribbled out.
And its a little blurry'ish in the upper portion.

If anyone has more info on the car it would be good to know more about it.
The file is tagged with a name = Steve R.

Lucerne Blue/ Ivory Buckets - 4spd
Sold in Rawlins, Wyoming
Atlanta Body # 300576 ... 5-11-72 mfg date {from best I can make out on those}

SoftRay All , 15" Honeycombs , Dual Horns , AM Radio , CustomTrim
No Console
$ 4774 +/- MSRP

That puts the total so far up to :
15 - Automatic
9 - 4 speed

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

24 Total

15 - Automatics
9 - 4 speeds

12 - Vinyl Tops
10 - Auto with AC
4 - Auto with Bench Seat & Column Shift
4 - 4 speed with AC
2 - 4 speed without Console
6 - with Stripes
4 - with Cruise Control

Exterior :
6 = Red
6 = Sundance
3 = Lucy Blue
2 = Wilderness Green
2 = Anaconda Gold
1 = Adriatic Blue
1 = Monarch Yellow
1 = Quezal Gold
1 = Shadow Gold
1 = Silver

Interior :
10 = Ivory
6 = Saddle
5 = Black
2 = Green
1 = unknown

4 Buildsheets for WW5 GTO's - all 4 from Atlanta Plant
All 4 = XXX CUSTOMER ORDER (hand picked special ordered by customer)

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Went through the documents that Lloyd had and we found 1 more WW5 that was not previously listed here.

All we have on it is the Buildsheet with the VIN scribbled out.
And its a little blurry'ish in the upper portion.

If anyone has more info on the car it would be good to know more about it.
The file is tagged with a name = Steve R.

I received those "Steve R." tagged docs so long ago that I have no recollection of who Steve R. is . . . it's he!! to get old . . .

I thought that Steve R. was a PY'er, but now I'm not so sure.

Sure wish we had docs for 100+ WW5 cars instead of 24.

[muscle_collector]

how many ww5 cars did they build?

[PB]

290 WW5 GTO's

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by PB

290 WW5 GTO's

Hey Pat - we've never found an accurate count of the M40 vs. M22 WW5 cars, have we?

[PB]

Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX

Hey Pat - we've never found an accurate count of the M40 vs. M22 WW5 cars, have we?

Nope....I wonder if Diego has anything in his data?

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by PB

Nope....I wonder if Diego has anything in his data?

That's a good question, Pat. Diego - what say you?

My best guess is pretty close to a 60% M40 / 40% M22 split. Mostly just a hunch.

[The Boss]

No stripes or wings = low survivability.

Special cars but nothing telling the average Joe or even the low level enthusiast that there's anything special about them.

[Lloyd-TX]

OK - I just referenced Fred Simmonds 1972 455 A-body paper, and on the 455HO is was nearly a dead heat for M22 / M40 usage.

Out of the total of 747 1972 455HO A-body cars, 365 were M22 cars and 382 were M40 cars.

I suspect that split would translate to the WW5 cars as well.

48.8% of 290 = 142 M22-equipped WW5 cars.
51.2% of 290 = 148 M40-equipped WW5 cars.

Who knows . . .

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by The Boss

No stripes or wings = low survivability.

Special cars but nothing telling the average Joe or even the low level enthusiast that there's anything special about them.

Well put, Chris, and I certainly agree.

[Diego]

Originally Posted by PB

Nope....I wonder if Diego has anything in his data?

1972 WW5 tranny breakdown? Nope, sorry.

[CDN2PLS2]

Three of the Post cars were WW5.One Built at each Plant.

[Steve Barcak]

Originally Posted by The Boss

No stripes or wings = low survivability.

Special cars but nothing telling the average Joe or even the low level enthusiast that there's anything special about them.

and that is exactly the reason why I like them over all others- no stripes and wing dings. Just a serious performance option available to the best legendary performance car. Let the copy cats and buy wings and dings and stripes. That is why there are more judges today then ever. A 72 GTO WW5 was the most serious performance GTO ever produced.
You see, different owners/buyers appeal to different things and not everyone wants extra visuals that do nothing but add actual and visual weight to an already heavy car.
To each their own but, you will never see me put a wing on mine. I might have done that when I was 16 but, not as an adult.
The WW5 option is the most extensive performance package ever offered and it had no 'visuals'/ How refreshing.