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NAPA Echlin CS89 Points
Evening everyone, I just bought a new set of Echlin CS89 High Performance points off Ebay earlier for a 1970 Trans Am, and they were described as New Old Stock, which appears to be true by looking at the box. I figured they would be better than the newsest stuff probably. I am just curious to know what the "Red" is on the points that I'm seeing in the pictures below? I see two black pieces in the bag also, which I believe are capsules of some type, but couldn't make out what the Red is. Just so you know, I'm a novice when it comes to points, and that's the reason for my question. I'm hoping they are the correct CS89 Echlin Points. Thank You
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1978 Trans Am Pump Gas 461 Stroker Last edited by TransAm 474; 01-28-2020 at 11:46 PM. |
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It’s just a guard. To keep the contacts from rusting/ corroding.
You just remove it before flight...as they say. |
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Awesome, Thank You. Does those look like the CS89, or is it tough to tell?
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1978 Trans Am Pump Gas 461 Stroker |
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Nappas good points and Accel used to be one and the same. Not sure today. I have not bought a set in 15 years. Can you still get them ?
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I've been sourcing out NOS points from Ebay for most distributors we do here. Just type in GM ignition points into the search line and plenty will be available. I use and prefer either the High Grade or Delco Remy.
NAPA still offers some excellent USA made points sets, but they will be 2 to 3 times as much as the NOS points from Ebay........Cliff
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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a Veteran! https://cliffshighperformance.com/ 73 Ventura, SOLD 455, 3740lbs, 11.30's at 120mph, 1977 Pontiac Q-jet, HO intake, HEI, 10" converter, 3.42 gears, DOT's, 7.20's at 96mph and still WAY under the roll bar rule. Best ET to date 7.18 at 97MPH (1/8th mile), |
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I suspect the second capsule has a wick or felt pad in it. I kinda liked the square pads that fit over the rubbing block.
Clay |
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The tube has grease in it for the distributer cam that opens the points.
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yes and the other capsule contains cyanide; this is handy when you have to drive back to the napa 5 times to get one good set of points.
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I just recently installed a set of Echlin HD points and condenser in an AMC engine for a customer. It used a GM distributor so just like our Pontiacs. Still very nice quality and good spring tension. They were pricey though. Around $30.00 for the points and condenser my cost. I remember when that same pair were around $10.00. Wasn't that long ago.
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Anybody know if NAPA still sells the higher ounce rated points? I’ll be needing a set when I get my car on the road in the spring and it’s been 12 years since they’ been changed.
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71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi 13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs. ‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears. |
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Doesn't accel still make high rev points?
Anyone remember Sorenson HD points, they had a cross cut in 1 of the contacts?
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1970 amc rebel 4-door, faded blue paint,290 emblems on car, 455 under the hood.Turbo 400,3.15 gear. Best so far 1/8 et,8.90 on street tires, Since that I have added 400 heads. I call it a rat sleeper. |
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Echlin CS 7860C are their "racing points" That means they have high spring tension and are non-vented. Around $20.00. Seem to be high quality.
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I still use these today in 4 vehicles here, and have had no issues running the 23 ounce to 7,000 rpm. Good quality well made set of points, that I've run in a couple of the cars for more than 20 years without changing them. |
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Cool. Thanks. It just seems like a lot of times I take for granted that parts are still available, and when I go to purchase them they are no longer made. I’ve kicked myself a few times for not stocking up on items like this.
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71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi 13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs. ‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears. |
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The only place around here that actually carries them in stock are a couple of speed shops in Phoenix. So any time I'm down there near Lopers or So Cal I usually grab a set.
Otherwise both Summit and Jegs still sell them if you'd rather mail order. |
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Glad to see that some folks are still running points distributors as I do in my 65 455 Gto!
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Greg Williams, Wabasha, Mn. 65 GTO, 455, DCI ported 6x heads, Isky Rpm 300 cam, 2-4's, 4 speed, 3.31 |
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The reason I went to a Pertronix is it seemed like every regular set of points I bought outside of Mallory : they wouldn't rev past 4000. It seemed like all brands.
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Did you try the high ounce rated points? I’ve had mine over 6000 rpm.
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71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi 13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs. ‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears. |
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If points won't rev over 4000 rpm then there is a problem somewhere else. Heck, the original OEM points would rev to 6000 ... cause lots of people did it and blew up their engines
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My engine never, ever has ignition issues. Points triggered CD ignition is far better than Petronix which can leave you stranded. Not happening with points CD. |
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